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Rotations have nothing to do with this. It’s all about having 30/168 before beginning a FDP/RAP.
(RAP = shortcall.)
I would strongly suggest having the “ALPA Guide to FAR 117” on your iPad.
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Every FDP or RAP. Long call is neither. Rotations have nothing to do with this. It’s all about having 30/168 before beginning a FDP/RAP.
(RAP = shortcall.)
I would strongly suggest having the “ALPA Guide to FAR 117” on your iPad.
I want more clarification about being on long call without 30/168. Here's the FAR language:.
"117.25 Rest period.
(a) No certificate holder may assign and no flightcrew member may accept assignment to ANY RESERVE or duty with the certificate holder during any re- quired rest period.
(b) Before beginning ANY RESERVE or flight duty period a flightcrew member must be given at least 30 consecutive hours free from all duty WITHIN the past 168 consecutive hour period."
I don't see a special allowance for you to be on long call (long call fits the definition of 'any reserve') without 30/168. I read the guide and I think it is misleading in discussing RAP because it makes it appear that long call reserve is not included as requiring 30/168 by omission, but I don't think it is the case. I agree that long call is not duty and it is not rest, but it is reserve and I think it's a FAR violation to not have 30/168 and be kept on long call.
A new hire friend was on long call today and was approaching his 138th hour without any rest longer than 30 hours. I told him to call scheduling to be assigned rest because long call was requiring him to stay at his crash pad due to the inability to commute back to base from home. His scheduler did not release him off of long call but kept him on long call for a total of 167.5 hours from the end of his last rest. Therefore there was only 30 minutes of rest included in his last 168 hours of reserve (excluding some short layovers). The FAR seems very clear to me that you can't perform ANY RESERVE without 30 hours free from all duty WITHIN 168 hours. The FAR is also clear that this rest must occur WITHIN the 168 hours, but the scheduler on the phone started that he needed 30 hours rest AFTER 168 hours of reserve. How is that not a FAR violation to keep him on long call (any reserve) without rest?