Currently have an interview scheduled for Friday, I applied not knowing anything and then have spent the last 10 hours reading about the dumpster fire that ABX appears to be. My question is...

Should I go and take the job, go for the interview experience, or just pass? Im currently an FO at a regional and would like to go to Atlas, Kalitta, Omni, etc... Currently just over 2,000 hours. I would apply to Atlas but cannot because of this "agreement" my current airline has and I don't meet the minimums for others. Should I go there to get a 767 type and some heavy experience or just pass? Thanks for any info.

No, it’s not. Next question

You are not hirable anywhere else without PIC time. ABX will hire you. But you will be stuck. Do Not Do It.

Look at Western Global, WGN. We aren't Kalitta, UPS, or FDX, but morale here isn't as bad, we aren't spooling down either, and the upgrade isn't as long. Your total time is low, but we've hired in that range before. In fact we have captain in the 3,000 hour range. As for getting "the call" be persistent, usual networking, I'm not sure if we attend any job fairs yet. We used to do open interviews. Good Luck.

I can’t recommend it at all coming to this place. But in your position you wont build time coming here. And certainly wont be building any TPIC for a long time. (Circle one: days, months, years, decades, centuries)

With 2000tt you need a regional with a flow or like the other dude said...Western Global. The way our network and schedules are built, our crew/aircraft utilization is low. Another thing...lines were cut again this coming month. We don’t build time here. This place is ran looking 5 mins ahead. Only a few people truly know what is the future in this company and they’ll never grow because they don’t paint any growth or goals.

Ask yourself, do you want to be a part of something that doesn’t look like its going anywhere? Jesus take the wheel.


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767 type and acmi experience would be a big plus to coming to K4, but if you aren't going to build time, nor get TPIC, what is the point? You need to get your TT in the 5000 range to open up more doors. WGA would be ideal, or perhaps a 36th NW company if you want out of the regionals, and happen to live in Miami? Those guys get hired by K4 too. Dare I suggest SkyLease?

Abx doesn't even have KCM. The President doesnt want pilots to have it.

Do you want to work for someone who intentionally inflicts policy to hurt employees?

Have you seen how many people have quit in the past month? Not just pilots. The president has created a very toxic work environment nobody wants to work for a management that treats employees like dirt and threatens to impose his will on their career.

ABX air owned by ATSG could have a pilot strike in the 4th Quarter because of lack of staffing. Amnz and dhl wont be happy. The contract will be very difficult for them to administer since they are letting many schedulers leave for more money.

^This alone is a good enough reason to pass on working there.

To the OP go be a DEC at one of the AA Wholly Owned regionals until you get a better job.

Also, steer clear of Atlas until they get a decent contract.