ABX Interview - Is it worth it?
10-28-2018 | 10:03 AM
#31
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"Then contact your representatives. They are the only ones who can change it."
I have contacted my elected representatives both in the house and senate regularly for years in my former states and my current one. I don't think they care about airline employees and our problems. I watched as they pumped billions into two automotive manufactures while my and several other airlines asked for help and were told to pound sand. I too am on my 6th airline. I hope it's the last one.
I have contacted my elected representatives both in the house and senate regularly for years in my former states and my current one. I don't think they care about airline employees and our problems. I watched as they pumped billions into two automotive manufactures while my and several other airlines asked for help and were told to pound sand. I too am on my 6th airline. I hope it's the last one.
10-28-2018 | 10:11 AM
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10-28-2018 | 02:23 PM
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While I understand what you're saying, I think you've misidentified the purpose of the RLA. The RLA isn't in place to ensure that transportation workers get a fair contract in a reasonable amount of time.
The purpose of the RLA is to prevent disruptions in the nation's transportation systems. At that purpose, it is far from toothless. The RLA is quite effective at preventing strikes and lockouts. The protracted negotiation process is exactly what the RLA was intended to produce.
The purpose of the RLA is to prevent disruptions in the nation's transportation systems. At that purpose, it is far from toothless. The RLA is quite effective at preventing strikes and lockouts. The protracted negotiation process is exactly what the RLA was intended to produce.
10-28-2018 | 06:09 PM
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Your statement is true. The sad part is that airlines should have never been part of the act. If you had a business in 1925 that was on the Norfolk Southern rail line, using it as your primary shipping method, and the Norfolk Southern employees went on strike shutting down that line your business was also basically shut down. Trains run on tracks owned by the company and no other company can run trains on those rails. If the struck company decides to let another company run trains on their lines during a strike the striking employees can easily disrupt that rail line and stop the struck work from going.
Airlines are totally different. They don't own the sky. If Delta goes on strike tomorrow Atlanta doesn't lose all air service. Will Atlanta or the nations commerce be negatively impacted? Certainly. But if the strike goes on long enough other airlines will add service and in the long term there will be no change in the economy. Why should airline employees be treated any differently than say truckers. I would submit that a nationwide trucker strike would be more damaging to the national economy than an airline strike. How about health care. Many local hospitals are now owned by Nationwide companies like Humana or Adventist. Why don't they have a similar act?
The RLA is essentially indentured servitude for airline employees. (especially pilots, mechanics and flight attendants) Because of our seniority system it is virtually impossible for senior employees to consider changing employers. We are approaching the 100th anniversary of this law. It's time for it to go.
Airlines are totally different. They don't own the sky. If Delta goes on strike tomorrow Atlanta doesn't lose all air service. Will Atlanta or the nations commerce be negatively impacted? Certainly. But if the strike goes on long enough other airlines will add service and in the long term there will be no change in the economy. Why should airline employees be treated any differently than say truckers. I would submit that a nationwide trucker strike would be more damaging to the national economy than an airline strike. How about health care. Many local hospitals are now owned by Nationwide companies like Humana or Adventist. Why don't they have a similar act?
The RLA is essentially indentured servitude for airline employees. (especially pilots, mechanics and flight attendants) Because of our seniority system it is virtually impossible for senior employees to consider changing employers. We are approaching the 100th anniversary of this law. It's time for it to go.
Namaste...
11-21-2018 | 04:49 AM
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There are rumors flying around that potential ABX new hires are being told there will be a pilot contract after Christmas. Thats news to everyone because for the last two years the potential new hires were told "it will be soon". Appears they are just telling pilots that to get them to commit. The fact is neither the union or the Management knows when a contract will happen because neither side knows what the other will agree to. I guess of you're top management and you think you know and you try to convince your boss you can deliver then egos will try to dictate the outcome. But it's an uneducated guess.
Bottom line the union put out a communication just last week stating it could be a very long time and the future is uncertain at ABX.
Bottom line the union put out a communication just last week stating it could be a very long time and the future is uncertain at ABX.
11-21-2018 | 05:56 AM
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There are rumors flying around that potential ABX new hires are being told there will be a pilot contract after Christmas. Thats news to everyone because for the last two years the potential new hires were told "it will be soon". Appears they are just telling pilots that to get them to commit. The fact is neither the union or the Management knows when a contract will happen because neither side knows what the other will agree to. I guess of you're top management and you think you know and you try to convince your boss you can deliver then egos will try to dictate the outcome. But it's an uneducated guess.
Bottom line the union put out a communication just last week stating it could be a very long time and the future is uncertain at ABX.
Bottom line the union put out a communication just last week stating it could be a very long time and the future is uncertain at ABX.
11-21-2018 | 08:37 AM
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11-21-2018 | 09:46 AM
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