All I'm saying is this: there are plenty of perks that we could negotiate for that would make our new hires' lives easier. They aren't necessities, I get that. Over the course of a career our hourly rates more than make up the cost as compared to regional airlines, I get that. But gestures count. Especially when many people take a pay cut their first year to come here, small financial perks help make that transition a lot easier.

I was fortunate enough to be able to survive new hire pay quite well. But not every new hire is so fortunate, especially some of the regional FOs that we picked up last year. Purchasing new uniform items is a big chunk of change especially when you're on a pitiful ~$1700/month new hire salary to begin with. That's a major reason why you see a lot of our junior guys without the standard uniform.

If the company cares about us following the uniform policy they can either start enforcing it or make it easier for new hires to comply. If they don't care, I don't care. I look like enough like a professional pilot that people ask for directions, want their kids to take pictures with me, and make room in the boarding area for me to enter the plane. That's good enough for me. If it's not good enough for you, you can stop me in the hallway and give some uniform advice in person.

***$1,000/month****

Most people include the per diem.

I completely agree that until we see new hires getting a coat that works for cold weather we cannot expect them to shell out the cash for a Perrone. That said the basic uniform of navy pants and blazer should not be a hardship at this level of one’s career. Black dress shoes shouldn’t be either.
Until the company sees a need to add more honey we can expect the status quo for pay and uniforms. The NC has already stated they aren’t concerned with new hire pay.

I don’t think you’re in the minority we just as group need to have a little more self respect. Btw, Delta doesn’t pay for new hire hotels and United doesn’t pay for uniforms ever. They do reimburse all dry cleaning for life though.

It’s not about you though that’s the point. When we all aren’t uniform we look like a bunch of discount pilots together.

I was just about to say, Delta doesn’t pay for hotels. So for our lack of $1,000 worth of uniforms?? That equates to about 10 days, maybe more, worth of hotels in a 2-month-ish training footprint.... Each airline has different caveats, does it really matter? The FOM states what the uniform shall be. How well it’s enforced is totally up to management...

Relax Francis, I’m not a rat. No interest in taking this to ProStd or CP. If they were concerned about it then they would’ve acted by now. And I’m complaining on an anonymous forum because that’s the whole point of this thread. Pay attention.

Don’t think I haven’t said anything to the gross violators; hasn’t happened often but I’ve brought it up. I don’t need more friends; if someone carries themselves in that manner it’d be a short, rocky friendship anyway.

Well, my friend.....that's what we are.

Dress for the job you want

Thing is management shouldn’t have to enforce it. The flight attendants have inspections because they need babysitters. I’d like to think that we don’t.