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303flyboy , 05-05-2021 03:26 PM

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I wouldn’t think you did at all brother. Think it will (knock on wood) work out pretty well for most of us

#82

LabDad06 , 05-05-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by reandld

All I really care about when it comes to a career is how much money I can make. I don't care about anything else. Sometimes I feel like a loser for choosing to be an airline pilot early on in my life. At least we earn decent wages that we can invest and turn into income producing assets.

I will admit I have had second thoughts about my career, especially after seeing a buddy's epoxy business making $2M a year while charging $4-6k for garage floors. So simple and so profitable. But it doesn't look enjoyable, though spending the money would be.

#83

reandld , 05-05-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Seriously? You are butthurt over THIS posting?

I didn’t thing the idea that United has more international exposure or that Delta prioritized business travelers was really all that controversial. Far less that it would actually offend someone and start them spinning fantasies.

Ahh yes, I see you've come to assist your other APC accounts with the discussion. I'm far from butt hurt since I already know your typical contribution of doom and gloom. I know you want to see the Big 3 suffer. You've said it time and time again, but it's starting to look like your predictions are falling short.

#84

reandld , 05-05-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyio

For me Spirit 100%, for them, see below. There is more to a choice than name alone.

I try to always tell people that their choice for a “lifer” career is way too personal for anyone to give the perfect answer. Ask questions about business models, financials, respected opinions on the state of the airlines etc and then take that with the other factors like qol, contract, seniority advancement to come up with the best answer for you.

There are things about Spirit that are so good for my situation that I would pass up offers from other majors. Does that mean they are the right fit for someone else, hell no.

Lets not make this a “my street is better than your street” argument, it is far to complicated for such a simplistic approach.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you at the Voy until about a month ago? I don't think you're qualified to make that determination since you're so new at the LCC and came from a carrier whose morale was about the lowest you could get at the regionals.

#85

Cyio , 05-05-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by reandld

Yes I was, how does that affect anything?

The point I was trying to make and I’m not sure how this evaded you is that everyone has different reasons for going where they go. Some want the highest pay scales, some want quick upgrade times, others prefer easily manipulated schedules while others just want a place they can be sitting reserve from their couch.

Spirit was on my radar and I had interviewed prior to COVID, so my decision was based on MY reasons for wanting to go there, not because I had to escape or didn’t have better options.

Your response to my post was so off base and aloof I’m not entirely sure you read it. What did I say that was wrong? I simply said there are lots of options and everyone has their reasons.

For me Delta is a no go, I don’t want to commute that far nor do I want to move to one of their bases. See how that works?

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Mink , 05-05-2021 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saturn

Do you understand the difference between a cash loss and equity write off? As in, they didnt really lose 12B out of their bank account. A lot of it was a "paper loss". Delta played accounting games and lumped asset depreciation for years to come into last year, among other things (Early retirement payouts, investing in their pension so they'll be self funded, JV equity writeoffs). If you are going to take a loss, take them all at once approach. This sets up future years for no tax liability, and manages the stock price volatility for future quarters. They wrote off the value of 56 767s and 91 717s to the tune of several billion, but they'll still be flying most of them til 2025. Still today taking most new aircraft in cash. Most of their debt will mature in short term.

They reduced a lot of future cost headwinds.
I foresee them quickly getting cashflow positive, paying down debt to 2019 levels (10B), and making billions a year in profits. May take a few years.

If the above is even remotely close to the truth, it should make the Tax Payer feel even more tail-violated for all the government cash that was thrown at the airlines to, you know, "save" them.

Clever accounting wins the day.

Sorry - good luck to the UAL v DAL choice makers.

#87

opt0712 , 05-05-2021 04:49 PM

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Whomever you think you'll gain the most seniority at in preparation for the next downturn.

#88

nene , 05-05-2021 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mink

When the govt is throwing(proposing to throw) around $10 TRILLION due to COVID and all, a lot of craziness is due to come. Keep in mind the NORMAL budget for the WHOLE US FEDERAL GOVT was/is $4.4 Trillion, so the current govt is proposing to spend(borrow) essentially 2.5 extra years worth of spending on top of what is normally fleeced through the DC bureaucracy. That money aint gonna spend itself.......

#89

El Peso , 05-05-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by reandld

And you're a Frontier pilot, so you're proving my point.

https://youtu.be/qben5MLmtXo

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ElCaribe , 05-05-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Me Air Da

Welp that settles it. Time to trade in my legacy job for Spirit. I never wanted that profit sharing or to be a widebody captain anyways.

No one hired at Delta now will be a WB Captain. Go to United if that’s your goal.