You do that and you get targeted, hounded, written up over frivolous crap and they make your life hell. There’s a reason there’s no fight in them. The last two that organized any resistance were targeted and fired... several times.

Of the past 6 NY CA Reps, 3 were fired at least twice. One seven times. You really expect guys to **** off the boss after that?

ALPA National? They’ll hire a lawyer and go through the motions but your still putting your career on an arbitrators decision....
How did 12.E.1. Work out?

Excellent post

Lol. Informational campaigns don't get people fired.

Yep, keep telling yourself they don’t care, and don’t target organizers. No joke. 3 of 6 NY CA reps were fired multiple times. One fired seven times, one three and one twice. The most egregious was for calling the CEO a liar publicly. Another for abusing sick leave (4 times in a year) and they refused to even look at the medical records which were provided. That one lasted about a month. Their record of messing with any union rep that ever stood up to them is profound

So take the sick calls for example. I'm sure they went from zero to termination just based off of 4 occurrences in one year, right? /s

This is sage advice and needs to be understood, however I dont think anyone here is calling for a change in the status quo for operations but rather, as a union that has been fragmented in its priorities.

Lets be honest, we are one of, if not the best AA feeder in the system all the while doing it with a concessionary/bankruptcy contract, so its clear that we all take pride in our jobs and want to complete the mission.

As for the lifers, I agree, they are still here and need to be represented. Even still, its an improvement focusing on just two groups, one small and one large than it was prior to this with the PP's and 824's.

So lets keep doing our job, follow the FM1 and contract and push forward as a unified front.

The only way forward is to pile on the disputes as and when the contract is violated.

This has better effect when they end up being grouped MEC grievances that impacts company’s performance.

Long story short don’t ***** about things in the crew room, file disputes.

I never see an announcement for his sessions.

I don’t know that they are “announced,” outside the training center, but he normally comes in at the end of the day at some point during the training cycle. The fact that it’s the end of the day is why most people don’t stay.

So a couple things..... I know most of you here weren't around back in 2014-2015 so most of you have no idea what you are asking for. Stagnation is terrible. You think it's bad now with these reserve rules? It's nothing compared to being on the bottom of the reserve list for years with these rules. Telling people not to come here isn't going to make the company suffer. It's going to make the guys on the bottom of the reserve list suffer.

Those of you hired from 2016 on were offered a shinny new jet, a 20k bonus and/or a few extra dollars per month and you came running when no real substantive contractual gains were attained. The company stopping reserve negotiations isn't a change in the company's behavior. They have never given the pilots anything unless they absolutely had to.

Don't advocate for people not coming here when you chose to come here under the same conditions. One could argue that Envoy is better than it was when many of you got hired. It's just a bit hypocritical of you. Envoy isn't the best but it is definitely not the worst.