Good info... thanks. Maybe the A330 NEOs can eventually do some point to point flying in the Pacific markets.

Even though I think the B787s would have been a much better fit... because it is smaller, has less seats and burns less. If we can't fill an airplane to HKG with decent yields with a B777 or an A330... I suspect we will struggle hard on markets like MNL, TPE etc which are non SkyTeam hubs- with big jets with close to 300 seats like the 330/350.

But those 40 additional A330/350s (mostly just A330s) coming has to fly somewhere. And the B767s are not being parked. I hope we won't see a nasty surprise with an updated B767 parking schedule anytime soon.

I am neither optimistic or pessimistic. This can go either way- depending on the management tactics and the economy and all I guess. I think we will find out in a year or so: if we will just be a skyteam hub airline... or if we will actually see some expansion into the secondary markets with those A330NEOs.

As the transcon market heats up it would not surprise me to see more domestic 767 flying. A two aisle 767 with a new interior would be hard to compete against by single aisle airlines.

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Do people buy tickets based on aircraft? How long before the A220 shifts to the high yield large RJ market, like LGA-MEM instead of LGA-DFW.

Well that didn't take long.

https://news.delta.com/delta-become-...yo-haneda-2020

I thought there was a plan, even with public comments, a few years ago to take an unspecified number of 76ER and reconfigure them for domestic. Could swear I remember reading that. Suppose that's DOA now.

Especially at flat out dumping prices for premium seats. And just wait til international gets ramped up. If we aren't able to question the performance metric by any means bonus based compensation we'll be in for a rude awakening once the next gen predatory competition heats up. We're not talking 5-10% off. More like half to 3/4 off, coupled with infinite growth on their terms looking at our route map like a menu. Hopefully we have a plan, and not just keep those numbers up in the short term and enable the cancer to grow.

I’m not disagreeing that LCC are a threat. I don’t disagree that they do do fire sales from time to time but I just wanted to see a comparison. I checked LAX-JFK round trip aug 26-30.

Delta One: 2400-2800
JetBlue Mint: 2469

What were the D1 prices before "mint"? Also the prices you saw may be for the last remaining seats whereas most were sold for much less?

They have openly bragged about their plans not being about small discounts over prevailing rates, but rather massive devastations of the prevailing fares.

The RASM/CASM/YoY B School bonus factory crowd needs to nip this in the bud but that will require short-medium term hits to the bottom line. The alternative is to guarantee massive perpetual hits to the medium-log term bottom line. But to many in the business world, that's "tomorrow guy's" problem.