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#131

Flyfalcons , 11-16-2019 06:20 AM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by got2fly

Having been in this business for 38 years, I've never seen an environment where it is so EASY to build a career and get a job. You have no idea what you've got. I've been through 3 airline bankruptcies and a furlough. I've worked for next to nothing whey you couldn't BUY a job. You don't see much of that these days. If you can't move your career forward in this environment, you're either INCOMPETENT or LAZY. If you think you can shame me or anyone else for wanting to work and be productive, good luck. If you're going to whine about how your career is stymied by others who want to work and fly airplanes, you're not going to get any sympathy from me.

It's a free country. Do whatever you want to do. If that is playing golf every day and flying your Cessna 172 for fun, then do it. If that is continuing your productive career as long as it is safe and legal, do it. Who are these snot nose kids who think they can tell people that working for a living is not "honorable"? Quit whining about your job prospects and go back to work. Or go cry to your mama. I'm not listening.

That's nice. Just don't become one of 'those guys' that are more of a hindrance than a help, who we all wish would have retired five years ago. Don't think they exist? Why do you think we have a well-advertised FDAC?

And yes, our pilots who work here simply to get away from their wives for a week should have done the honorable thing during the downturn. If you're in your 70's and have to work to make money, then you do what you gotta do, though I'm not sure I can think of a sadder existance. I'm talking about our hobbyist pilots. One very famous one of which finally left after multiple trips through FDAC.

#132

Packrat , 11-16-2019 08:18 AM

Banned

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Originally Posted by got2fly

If that is continuing your productive career as long as it is safe and legal, do it. Who are these snot nose kids who think they can tell people that working for a living is not "honorable"? Quit whining about your job prospects and go back to work. Or go cry to your mama. I'm not listening.

As Mr. Spock would say, "Colloquially expressed, but essentially correct."

You'll get your left seat, Son. With the major airline retirement landscape in the next 10 years, probably sooner than you deserve it.

#133

Flyfalcons , 11-16-2019 08:41 AM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by Packrat

As long as you understand that it's a majority of NetJets pilots that want a mandatory retirement age here. Why do you feel that is?

I also love hearing about upgrade times from a recently retired airline pilot whose upgrade was based on Age 60 retirements, then was given until 65 to retire. How quaint.

#134

flyboy041 , 11-16-2019 06:09 PM

Banned

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Originally Posted by OhSnapAF

Don't be silly, there is no way to manipulate the schedule and work the contract to get paid more. You are at the whim of scheduling, and your only way of making more money is flying tired. Don't fatigue during your scheduled work trip, then when you go home day comes up, you extend.

You forget, He is A teamer! He definitely can manipulate his schedule. When you willing to work 26+ days a month. You get to pick your own schedule

#135

flyboy041 , 11-16-2019 06:22 PM

Banned

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Originally Posted by DenVa

Man, these threads always turn out the same...

The W2 thread will be revived soon enough. I guess it will settle the argument, lol. #sarcasm

Pilots here thumb their chest and measuring d$ics. While a dentist can easily gross over a mil a year. Just saying.

#136

flyboy041 , 11-16-2019 06:28 PM

Banned

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Originally Posted by DH2time

Please educate me and tell me how knowing the CBA will help a pilot make more at NJA. They have no control over what they do on a daily basis.

Can I swap a tour for one paying premium time? Can I swap out a low paying tour for a higher paying one over the same days? What can one do but work more days??

You can sacrifice your life your marriage and be on the CC76 with the 8 day tour option and request to extend every off days you have. And never call fatigue. Will that get you close to his number.

#137

Shenzi105 , 11-17-2019 04:56 AM

Gets Weekends Off

when does this thread get closed? $0.5 it doesn't pass the weekend LOL.

It's funny how the minority is always the loudest one behind a keyboard.

#138

Packrat , 11-17-2019 06:02 AM

Banned

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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons

As long as you understand that it's a majority of NetJets pilots that want a mandatory retirement age here. Why do you feel that is?

As long as YOU understand that inevitably mandatory retirement age will effect YOU whether or not you're ready to go.

#139

Twofiddyatten , 11-17-2019 06:35 AM

Banned

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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons

You only want a mandatory retirement age so you can finally track your progress and seniority to becoming captain. To have an actual timeline of gaining seniority etc. which is totally fine. But it’s a bit hypocritical when people want a mandatory retirement age for mostly selfish reasons, only to call retired airline pilots selfish for going to fly at NetJets.

#140

GeeWizDriver , 11-17-2019 06:58 AM

Speed, Power, Accuracy

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Originally Posted by Twofiddyatten

There are a great many of us rapidly approaching the 121 mandatory retirement age and who are already senior PICs that ALSO want a mandatory retirement age. Count me among them.

The primary motivation is to force the removal of 74 year old narcoleptic jackwagons and other such safety risks who refuse to understand that the demands of the job now exceed their degraded physical and mental abilities.

FDAC is NOT an adequate backstop. Been there, done that, he kept sleeping on the job.