Ahh... official channels. I see.

LOA 17 announcement issued April 3rd 2019 which mandates that the eventual PBS agreement be voted on by the pilot group on page 4 paragraph 3.

As well as the memorandum of understanding on PBS issued April 3rd 2019 which specifies that parallel bidding and implementation of PBS may not begin until negotiations are complete.

You can find both of these in the ALPA section of your Comply 365 under the LOA and MOU folders respectively.

If you have an actual announcement from the Union or Company regarding PBS more recent than these agreements, then by all means share it with the group.

Everything I’ve heard from union reps is that PBS is presently not even being discussed. Yes, we have those LOAs but from what union reps are saying there hasn’t been any movement or discussion since those LOAs.

That just means that it's not currently being negotiated, that doesn't mean that it's no longer something the company is working to implement.

Now if PBS is in fact dead then I look forward to the Union announcement to that effect.

Just beating the trip and duty rig drum some more...

I sincerely believe that if you don't think trip and duty rigs are important not only to current affairs but future implementations of PBS or other contract language then you don't know what the fudge your talking about.

That said... we'll probably get some **** poor worded Min Day language cause you know getting $20 more per vacaction day and training event is more important then the rest of year where 90% of your pay comes from...

I have gradually learned that “not right now” is often functionally equivalent to never - especially so when it comes to airline labor issues.

Well... the Union also stated several times unequivocally that pay raises were not on the discussion table and we got one out of thin air ! So... you know... stuff.

They weren't under negotiation. In its infinite wisdom, AA bestowed raises, and the union acquiesced.

PBS would not happen in that fashion.

Umm, yea.

Just saying no one knows the future.

You don't think if daddy said make PBS happen that it wouldn't ?

Of course the Union would be involved. Me thinks you took what I said too literally, when it was tongue in cheek. But hey, we is pilots so we got to tell everyone how much they're wrong and how much we are right, right ?

No one anticipated pay raises and we got them.

Whatever you decide don't base it on the lies the recruiters and management will tell you about the flow. They're telling candidates 6 years but probably more like 5. Maybe they know something they're not telling us but it's easily double that.
PSA is the new Mesa.