How does coronavirus affect QX?

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Quote: For perspective, at Alaska Airlines we will have 152 airplanes parked by April 15th. We will be left operating 87 airplanes...The last time this went down Horizon was not flying any jets for us and Skywest was operating a few CRJ 700’s for us....
very bad news for everyone on the alaska tail, sad times.

hoping this will go away fast
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Looks like we're upgrading 12 ppl maybe? Very surprising to get that email
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Quote: Looks like we're upgrading 12 ppl maybe? Very surprising to get that email
Yeah I was surprised as well, although they have been tap-dancing around how we are short on 175 CAs trying to drive upgrades to the Q and more than they anticipated said 'pass' when offered a Q CA slot.

They really need to bite the bullet and put pay differential beyond the 4.2 rig to get more demand for the Q positions, although that was before C19 blew everything up...
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Quote: Yeah I was surprised as well, although they have been tap-dancing around how we are short on 175 CAs trying to drive upgrades to the Q and more than they anticipated said 'pass' when offered a Q CA slot.

They really need to bite the bullet and put pay differential beyond the 4.2 rig to get more demand for the Q positions, although that was before C19 blew everything up...
Can you expand on your comments about pay differential? When I do a quick scan of bid results it looks like the credit hours are about the same, with inefficiencies/long sits/short stages for both fleets. Though less block on the Q is undeniable...

This is an honest question, please help me understand your point.

Bill's "all pilots" email was definitely a surprise. And the virus is obviously a wild card, but later or much later things will be back to "normal"...
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Quote: Can you expand on your comments about pay differential? When I do a quick scan of bid results it looks like the credit hours are about the same, with inefficiencies/long sits/short stages for both fleets. Though less block on the Q is undeniable...

This is an honest question, please help me understand your point.

Bill's "all pilots" email was definitely a surprise. And the virus is obviously a wild card, but later or much later things will be back to "normal"...
If we actually used logic to determine pay (hah), the Q would be paid more/hr because lets be honest here, its more work and higher workload than the jet hands down.

More legs on average per day (pre-C19).

Less integrated systems.

Lower altitude ceilings, requiring more weather SA/avoidance.

More legs into SEA, which was a zoo pre-C19.

No one else flies the Q in the US for pax ops so its also a "dead" type rating should QX suddenly cease operations (meteorite to HQ) and you have to find work somewhere else.

Yet we all get paid the same per hour. That's why no one is jumping at the chance to upgrade into the Q IMHO.
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Quote: If we actually used logic to determine pay (hah), the Q would be paid more/hr because lets be honest here, its more work and higher workload than the jet hands down.

More legs on average per day (pre-C19).

Less integrated systems.

Lower altitude ceilings, requiring more weather SA/avoidance.

More legs into SEA, which was a zoo pre-C19.

No one else flies the Q in the US for pax ops so its also a "dead" type rating should QX suddenly cease operations (meteorite to HQ) and you have to find work somewhere else.

Yet we all get paid the same per hour. That's why no one is jumping at the chance to upgrade into the Q IMHO.
Yeah, but it's your quickest route to upgrade and then on to Alaska. Oh, wait... dang it!

Also, the Q pays 0.5% less as of December 2019. The gap increases by 0.5% every year until December 2023 (the Q will pay 2.5% less by then).

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...should QX suddenly cease operations (meteorite to HQ)...
SMOD 2020!!!
https://sweetmeteorofdeath.com/
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Was the idea that the jet and the Q would be interchangeable on routes, so the jet needed a little more pay to make up for the extra speed? Because that's dumb as hell.
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The easier your flying the more you get payed. Simple economics
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Quote: For perspective, at Alaska Airlines we will have 152 airplanes parked by April 15th. We will be left operating 87 airplanes...The last time this went down Horizon was not flying any jets for us and Skywest was operating a few CRJ 700’s for us....
The "last time"? When was the last time AS parked 152 airplanes all at once for an undetermined amount of time? not including the very temporary complete shutdown after 911, even then, did we even have a 152 total airplanes?
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Is it wrong to assume furloughs are not a matter of if but when? I can't see how any airline can operate like this. Even with the govt bailout. Which has some pretty ridiculous stipulations as of now.
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