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155mm , 06-25-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR

DPEs aren't regionally restricted anymore.
If they are traveling to you - are you paying their travel expenses now?
Airline/POV gas/Hotel/Per Diem?
You know - most of the things that professional pilots expect to be paid when they are flying or doing flying related duties?

You can always get an ASI to do that ride.
For now maybe - but they really are trying to divest themselves of flying and turning most (if not all) over to the DPEs.

Or, perhaps the FAA should designate more examiners! This concept of a DPE traveling abroad to give checkrides at such a high cost to the examiner is ridiculous!

#22

rickair7777 , 06-25-2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 155mm

There are many useful scenarios available to practice on the Flight Sim even at the Private Pilot level. Tune, ID and proceed direct to the VOR, track a radial, clearing turns, steep turns, perhaps even some approach to landing, departure stalls and recovery. You can even practice the cross country flight beforehand or familiarize yourself with the class B airspace beforehand. In addition, you can have the POH out and just keep the sim running with the park brake set and go over cockpit setup, fire during engine start procedure and other static training scenarios at no cost! It's just an idea to integrate and practice procedurally what one was taught and perhaps clarify concepts.

At PPL, only very limited instrument procedures.

Doing any sort of VFR manuevers is counter-productive... there's a reason airlines use multi-million level D sims for that kind of thing.

It would be useful as a procedures trainer if everything is in the same place. Otherwise, just sit in the cockpit of the real plane when nobodies using it. You don't get charged for turning the master on.

#23

155mm , 06-25-2020 08:48 AM

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155mm , 06-25-2020 08:55 AM

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"Training Aid"

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#25

USMCFLYR , 06-25-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 155mm

Or, perhaps the FAA should designate more examiners! This concept of a DPE traveling abroad to give checkrides at such a high cost to the examiner is ridiculous!

DPE costs are free market.
dont like it - don’t pay it.
Get it free by using a FED.
FAA is designating more.
As I said.....STANDARDS is trying to get out of the flying business.

#26

155mm , 06-25-2020 12:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCFLYR

DPE costs are free market.
dont like it - don’t pay it.
Get it free by using a FED.
FAA is designating more.
As I said.....STANDARDS is trying to get out of the flying business.

What concerns me, and should concern everyone, is that general aviation as a whole, is now out of reach for the average Joe. Just a sad, simple fact!

#27

trip , 06-25-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR

DPE costs are free market.
dont like it - don’t pay it.
Get it free by using a FED.
FAA is designating more.
As I said.....STANDARDS is trying to get out of the flying business.

I can't even get a FED to look at my I.D. and sign off on a 8710, (remote pilot license app.) seems they're still only tele-working from home.

#28

USMCFLYR , 06-25-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by trip

I can't even get a FED to look at my I.D. and sign off on a 8710, (remote pilot license app.) seems they're still only tele-working from home.

That wouldn't surprise me at all.
My organization is still a majority directed telework.
On top of the COVID concerns (and the recent uptick), my workspace is being renovated too - so I'm stuck at home till probably the end of the year.

#29

Swakid8 , 06-25-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TiredSoul

The PPL requirements haven’t changed since like 1963 and Airspace and everything else has. Operations have become more complicated and require more practice to proficiency.
Here is an example from my own experience:

Startup, taxi and run up .3 hrs (18min)
Flight time to altitude and suitable practice area .2
Flight time back from practice area .2
Landing, taxi and shutdown .1 (6 min)

Out of a lesson of 1.5 hrs that leaves you 0.7 (42 min) of effective maneuver training time.
Yes, every take off, climb and cruise is practice but it is not “training time”.
So unless you operate out of a grass strip and can do steep turns at the departure end of your runway you will have “travelling time” that deducts from your total flight time.
Sometimes you also need some “straight and level” sight seeing time for comprehension or working through a rough spot or simply for enjoyment after a tough lesson.
We’re working with people here.
Also I can solo you at an isolated non towered airport which is the equivalent of driving in an empty parking lot but I’d you train out of a busy Class D or higher you’ll need a lot more practice before you can go on your own.
At my home airport the difference between calm and quiet and 3 jets of final could be 5 minutes. You’d simply have to be able to handle that.

* Why did you start in the middle of a pandemic by the way?

hence is why I was instructing private students, I’ll plan for 1.5 hours of flight time if we were doing maneuvers and 1 hour for pattern work. It’s plenty of time for start up and taxi and travel to and from the practice area and a few laps in the traffic pattern.

#30

TiredSoul , 06-25-2020 03:06 PM

All is fine at .79

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Originally Posted by 155mm

Thats not even close to what you said initially:

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I also suggest purchasing the microsoft flight simulator X program and logitech joystick for your computer to practice manuevers