The PBGC basically wants to use all the pension money for government funding for unrelated things. If they can hold on to the money for another 2 years, they can keep the funds for other things they want to use it for.. they succeeded in doing that when they raised the age from 60 to 65. They did not have to start paying pensions for another 5 years. Now they will get another 2 years out of it if they can raise it again. The only country that has the age 67 rule as of now is Japan. And due to ICAO rules, they are all doing domestic only flying. Again, the companies are lobbying against this rule this time because they cannot get 5 years of international flying out of any of there 65 plus pilots like they did when they raised it from 60 - 65 because ICAO does not allow it. Currently it will only benefit the pension board as they get to keep the pension money for another 2 years.

I'll bet you a beer that ICAO world change the age to 67 within a month of we raise the age. That's a weak argument. Buuut, if I had to bid down, it would free up my seat for you. You still win.

Yes. It does seem that way.

The narrowbody captain you would bump back wouldn't win, though.
This is all a bunch of posturing. Nothing is going to come of this bill.

So, if Congress passes it, the President signs it, and the FAA and applicable governing authorities implement it, how are you going to NOT accept it?

I think “like” is a better word to use, because you won’t have a choice.

What’s up NERD? 😀

How about this... anybody who was in the industry and subjected to the five-year age 65 seniority freeze gets another two years since we already paid the dues. Then new-hires get it.

Even if an age 65 pilot has to bid down there is still plenty of decent “domestic” flying. The Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, Hawaii, etc. Not Paris or Rome but if you’ve been to those places 100+ times already the novelty has worn off a little. Plus they’ll be senior.

Some might retire. Some will embrace the change.

This is incorrect information. When the PBGC assumes a pension plan all payouts and benefits are based on the rules in effect at the time of pension termination. That is why Delta pilots can draw their PBGC benefit at age 60 while continuing to work. It was very stupid to do so but the majority seem to take the money at 60.

Does anyone not see the irony here? And old timer surrounded by 2 relatively senior FOs doing a one and done to a canned location (cdg), versus an old timer with a new hire doing 4 legs a day.

I had 3 instances on my last trip where something happened during a checklist. The safety chain is way more apt to be broken domestically then internationally imho

It’s all poop