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Meeko , 12-22-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cocoloco

What are u worried about? FDX is a monster Internationally. Do u fly Intl with FDX? They outnumber UPS at every major gateway by 3x. CRK has 4 wide bodies to UPS 1. NRT has 9 WB on the Ramp to UPS 2. KIX 6 WB's to UPS 2. SIN has 3 to UPS 1. You want me going?? I can go on with a dozen more. FDX may have a weak Scope, but it isn't affecting there footprint at all.

So because our weak scope isnt effecting our footprint we should just leave the scope weak? Yeahhhh that type of thinking has never ended poorly for a pilot group in the past before......

#12

Cocoloco , 12-22-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender

Seems a little short sighted. Fred wanted every little box on a purple tail. Not sure that’s the case moving forward, but you go with that.

I will Swede. Obviously u havent been outside of the US flying. FDX is bigger now than before Fred retired at Intl. Airports. I see it daily. This sky isn't falling because of their weak scope doesnt match reality. Even in CGN they have three planes a night at our Hub. We have one plane in CDG.

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Cocoloco , 12-22-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverside

How many Ups 737's do you see flying around Europe? That's the problem.

Really??? We have a compnay called Star Airlines. With about 20 767's flying intra europe and Greece.

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Cocoloco , 12-22-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Meeko

So because our weak scope isnt effecting our footprint we should just leave the scope weak? Yeahhhh that type of thinking has never ended poorly for a pilot group in the past before......

Your weak scope hasn't hurt you yet. Like I said, look at your numbers across the globe. FDX is huge. Weak Scope and all. We have a great scope, but still have 1/3rd your planes on ramps???? Hmmmm.....

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CL300 , 12-22-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoloco

I’ve been flying Europe for years and have never seen more than one airplane at a time in Cologne. Sometimes days without seeing even one. Their sort facilities are in CDG and Liege, not Cologne. And from what my Purple buddies have told me, those pesky ASL 737s are getting more and more popular on the ramps there too.

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airplanes , 12-22-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoloco

Really??? We have a compnay called Star Airlines. With about 20 767's flying intra europe and Greece.

How do they get away with this with our “awesome” scope?

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Brett Hull , 12-22-2023 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by airplanes

How do they get away with this with our “awesome” scope?

The flights that Star operates for us are routes we're not legally allowed to due to European cabotage rules.

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threeighteen , 12-23-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cocoloco

Your weak scope hasn't hurt you yet.

Yes, it has.

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Riverside , 12-23-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cocoloco

Really??? We have a compnay called Star Airlines. With about 20 767's flying intra europe and Greece.

yeah, there's a reason for that you know🙄

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NotMrNiceGuy , 12-23-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverside

yeah, there's a reason for that you know🙄

Regarding Greece, why would FedEx be able to fly 757’s and MD-11’s to Greece, but not UPS?