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Quote: Hello all. I rarely post here as there is a lot of negativity and flaming but what the heck I'll put my neck out to help those that are seriously considering working at AAA.

I just came back from over 5 years of furlough to the 190. Took the first thing available but that's another story. Regardless of what some say the 190 is a good airplane. It's state of the art, LCD screens with lots of automation. More than a CRJ and a hair less than the Little Bus. It's a good size airplane that is bigger than a DC9 & fun to fly. We're configured 88 coach and 11 first class seats. We have 6 airplanes and getting 2 per month until we get our 25 orders and then we have options on 30 more 190/195s. All planes for now are based in PHL and although there is nothing official, CLT looks to be a reasonable possibility when we get more airplanes.

The training is AQP (Advanced Qualification Program) and was created by our fleet captain who is one of the creators of AQP and what all other fleet's training are being modeled after. The training is very good and the check airmen and instructors are top notch. Really super guys and none of that petty empire building garbage. Every Captain I've flown with on the aircraft has been great and fun to fly with. I'm not sure about first year pay I believe it's somewhere in the $40's per hour. We have a long call (9hr) and short call (1.5hrs). As recalls finish their year lock they are bidding off the 190 for more pay. Bottom line is FO's are moving up quick and becoming block holders within several months. A lot of the lines are day trips because it was a new airplane but every month we are getting more 2, 3, & 4 days. If you live in base it's a good life. At the moment reserves aren't working a lot but that's subject to change. 72hr guarantee for long call and 76hr guarantee for short call.

Now to the ugly. As most of you know things here haven't been peachy. The seniority award will get worked out, we will get a better contract, and it's no secret that Doug Parker is looking to buy or merge with another carrier. Things are far from perfect here but there are a lot of changes coming including possibly going to an inhouse union which may be a good thing, but we won't get into that discussion. If you look on the positive side this could be a great place to be in the not-so-distant future. If you are young (early 40's and younger) you'll have time for things to change. We have a lot of retirements and things are moving quickly. I don't see USAirways as a company that's going to go away soon, but as with any carrier it's a roll of the dice. I was at ValuJet when they started. Everyone said, "get the heck out of there!" It was a horrible place to be. If you stuck it out you are sitting very pretty now so you can't judge the future by today. I'll be happy to answer any questions for those that have them. I won't get involved into a AAA or AW bashing. Life's too short. One thing I will say is that these are some of the best crews I've ever flown with. Very professional and fun! Lot's of original Piedmont, PSA, and USAir folk as well as new junior folk like myself. It may not be your cup of tea and hey that's great. Whatever blows your dress up, but I'd also say not to dwell on what all the negative people say. There's too many negative people in this business that do a good job making flying airplanes a bummer. I've been doing this too long to be miserable in life. Good luck to those that want to come here. Hopefully all of our brother at USAir east and west will come together one day.



And what was the pay on the "smaller" DC-9?
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Merger Mania
With Lcc hovering around 2.7B market cap, I am afraid that Tilton will get the company checkbook out soon and write the check. What a mess the UAUA/LCC seniority integration will be. Tilton and Dougie seem to be the only players in the merger game. It will be interesting.
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Is there any way to update your application after you have submitted it? Thanks
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A letter was just put out that indicated that USAirways pilots could write a letter to recommend a candidate that has submitted his/her application online. The USAirways pilot should give this letter to his Chief Pilot for processing. The recommendation "does not guarantee an interview" but will place value when comparing attributes and qualifications. It also says that the USAirways pilot should be able to speak to the applicant's flying abilities or character.

Hope this helps.
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Quote: And what was the pay on the "smaller" DC-9?
Jumpseated out of MCI in 1997 on a US -9. I was a new hire 1900 FO. The -9 FO showed me his paystub...he was making $109 AN HOUR IN 1997! How low can we go?
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Time to get it back!
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I haven't seen any retirement projections (with or without 65 factored) for US Air. Anyone know how long a new hire this year would be sitting right seat for? I realize there are many factors at play...
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my guess is youd want to move up to widebody fo before you went to narrowbody captain anyway, unless you like getting treated like a h.o.
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Unverified numbers:

I think you'd need about 2000-2500 to leave in order to make left seat of a 737/AB320 from the bottom of the list. So based on these figures you'd be looking at about a 7-8 year upgrade if age 60 remains. Add about 3-5 years if it goes to 65. The much ballyhooed "geographical fence" is a big unknown and could make the time shorter if you're an Eastie and/or you're willing to take the E190 C/O seat. Good luck.

The retirements are very heavy on the East. Here is a list of retirements per year from each side based on age 60:

Year / East / West / Cumulative

2007 / 228 / 43 / 271
2008 / 177 / 46 / 494
2009 / 232 / 47 / 773
2010 / 194 / 52 / 1019
2011 / 246 / 44 / 1309
2012 / 267 / 65 / 1641
2013 / 283 / 51 / 1975
2014 / 289 / 77 / 2341
2015 / 289 / 69 / 2699
2016 / 292 / 68 / 3059
2017 / 255 / 66 / 3380
2018 / 261 / 85 / 3726
2019 / 209 / 78 / 4013
2020 / 222 / 88 / 4323
2021 / 168 / 90 / 4581
2022 / 165 / 94 / 4840
2023 / 148 / 77 / 5065
2024 / 118 / 92 / 5275
2025 / 97 / 94 / 5466
2026 / 103 / 77 / 5646
2027 / 109 / 68 / 5823
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Well, all this background information is just peachy but it means nothing if you can't get your on-line application through. Today after spending an hour + on their web-site I'm having the blank page appear after submitting my application. And there's no e-mail saying they have received anything. You can rent a car and get a confirming email back in two seconds, but USAIRWAYS? You know what they say about first impressions.....
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