I have to say for an article written about a crash I have to say this is one of the few that doesn't stray off into hollywood with passenger accounts. If you notice the passangers were actually thanking the pilots and flight attendants for the job well done. This is a classic example of why we deserve more than poverty wages! Shot an approach down to 300 and 1 1/2 with fog and snow, slid off the runway and still has the composure to give the pax a relaxing and reasuring brief. Well done.

http://www.projo.com/news/content/ha...6.27d7e63.html

I gotta say seeing that picture really hurts.

Yes, it does hurt. The truth will come out and I suspect that will hurt too. Glad it wasn't worse.

Hadn't even heard about this one...wow.

what prey tell, is the hurtful truth you surmise?

I'm glad everybody was ok, and I'm very curious to find out what happened.

This article was pretty good, although I think publishing anything that most passengers say aside from "we landed hard and slid off the runway" is not the most responsible thing to do. Publishing the comment about "we were perpendicular to the runway" is sure to mislead everybody. I'd bet they were perpendicular to A runway, not the one they were using...

Anyone know what the winds were during this accident?

*edit*

found the wind on wunderground for that night... there was a very significant wind shift just after 1700... i.e. just after they landed. LLWS perhaps?

I don't want to speculate publicly and shouldn't have even said what I said. There are no facts out there that aren't already widely known.

Let's wait for the report to come out.

I agree, however, If it's true that the pilot said they had a "hard landing", then, we all know that is not good.

My sim partner from training flew a trip to there that afternoon from ATL...they landed (his leg) , he said it was "fair braking action at the time, however it was mostly snow" they then deplaned and reboarded and took off an hour later back to ATL, at the tiime of departure he said it was changing over to sleet and the runway seemed more slick then when they had arived, he then said that they departed as the AWAC plane was on final.....so they got out just before this happened...overall according to him the conditions just downright sucked, glad everyones ok though

Perhaps there was a high xwind? That would account for the pax description of being "perpindicular" to the RWY. That combined with rapidly changing RWY conditions is a receipe for diasaster.

You need runway friction to just stay on the runway in a xwind, to say nothing of braking. The TR's will likely hurt more than they help in that situation.