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Originally Posted by BoilerWings
FAR61.51 - (f) Logging second-in-command flight time. A person may log second-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person:
(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements of §61.55 of this part, and occupies a crewmember station in an aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate; or
(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted.
61.55 is too big to post, so here's the link: 61.55
As I read it, to log SIC part 91, the A/C must require an two pilots. If your CJ2 capt has the single pilot type rating, then you're not required and thus cannot log SIC time. If he does not have the single pilot type, then you ARE required and must meet the above requirements (SIC type or AMEL/Inst). However, if you're NOT required, and the PIC has an MEI, then you can log dual received. (I think you can log dual received even if he doesn't have an MEI as long as he doesn't exercise MEI privileges such as single engine training). Your Capt should know his limitations as a CFI and what he can legally log as dual given.
As far as I know, the CJ2 is a single pilot airplane, but the PIC must have a Single-pilot type rating. I'm pretty sure the Eclipse is the same way.
Hope this helps.
No, read it again carefully. You can log SIC in an AIRCRAFT that is type certificated for two pilot operation. Period. There are no exclusions for an airplane which is flown by a single-pilot typed PIC. Don't read into more than it says. Does the aircraft require more than one pilot? Yes. That meets the intent of the reg. The fact that it can also do single-pilot ops does not delete the fact that it is certificated for two pilots.
The interpretation here is that the PIC can always chose to conduct two pilot operations if he so desires...even though he may be rated for single pilot. Obviously you need to get his concurrence before you log it
This is not a new concept, some citations have had the single-pilot option for decades.
If you are flying right seat in a jet in which you have low time, log it as SIC. This is perfectly valid ME and turbine time, but like somebody already said be sure you can discuss technical details of the most recent airplane you have been flying. It's probably not worth it for one or two hours, but if you can get multiple flights it will look good on your resume.
Do not try to log XC country legs as Safety Pilot or MEI/Dual-Given in a jet in which you have very low time...this would obviously be BS. Turbine SIC is good enough for the regionals.