No confusion. Just irony.

Carryover DOES cause a paycut for the enitre crewforce. It is not accounted for in BLG. Hence it is not reflected into the Reserve Day pay. Also, if it was accounted for in BLG it would force the company to adjust (increase the BLG) all the lines to keep them within the contractural spread of min vs max line. So IT MOST DEFINITELY DOES CAUSE A PAYCUT for the entire crewforce.

For example.
LAX F/O: Avg BLG 69:51. There are 50 lines with total carryover of 572+45. Not counting secondary or reserve lines. But just looking at the lines. If they accounted it into BLG that would rasie the AVg BLG to over 80, or keeping the same BLG it would force them to create 8 more lines (ie the necessity for more pilots).

I realize the necessity for carryover in international flying. However there are numeroues lines above 40 hours and three above 60 hours. That is excessive.

Z

Apples and Oranges. Do the words "Out of Context" mean anything to you?

Oh, I get it...

Bottom Line* vs Bottom Line

* = Soap Box / Preacher Box

No you don't get it. The FAA changing federal regulations is not equivalent to Section Four of the CBA. All issues are not equal or controllable. I love the bold mental stroke of boiling all discussions down to “the bottom line”. Astounding, I stand in awe.

In any debate the first response of a weak position is oversimplification. I realize that some people sleep better at night with a “one size fits all” paradigm. Nighty-night.

What's a preacher box anyway? Nevermind, I don't care.....

'...same rules and system....'

Did you vote for the seniority system?

Bidding system. Anything else?