The ugly face of redistribution. What has it bought us? You have been bought and sold like a commodity and don't even know it, I feel sorry for you.
I really do.

So you DO admit the poor pay some federal tax! I would heartily agree to elimination of corporate taxes in favor of a V.A.T. - but only because the corporate tax rate actually matters for economic growth. On the other hand, if you look at the history of this country, you will find that a high marginal personal income tax rate doesn't make any difference in terms of growth.

Funny. Earlier you had me pegged as one of the 47% that didn't pay Federal taxes, being towed along by you, the walking contradiction - the Libertarian who owes his high wages and cush hours to labor unions that wouldn't have a prayer in his Utopia. Now you're saying that I'm naively paying tax and not being angry enough about it?

Sorry you got that wrong. Low tax rates are directly linked to growth. You might want to read a few books on economics before you embarrass yourself any further.
High tax rates on both individuals and corporations cause a long term brain drain and money drain. Money goes where it is most welcome, water flows downhill. You can't change these facts by hoping.

You are the one pasting labels, not me. I am just asking you to examine the situation. The more labels you paste, the more obvious it becomes that you have no idea of the underlying principles.

I didn't get that wrong, you changed my statement. I said high MARGINAL income tax rates don't matter, not overall tax rates. Check that economics text book of yours for the difference.

Split hairs if you must, but the past few decades have proved you wrong. Dead wrong.
There are well known and clear ways to deal with our problems, but most lack the courage to employ them or even mention them.

As I said before, the problem is getting ready to take care of itself, much of this is going to collapse under its own dead weight. False reasoning doesn't ever last long in the light of day. Watch and enjoy.

Just for fun and irony, I thought of some of the "useful" people in the top 53% who pay federal income taxes, and some of the "free riders" in the bottom 47%

The brave overtaxed drivers of our economy
- editorialists at the washington post and ny times
- most government workers
- lobbyists

And the roots of a lot of evil:
- most regional airline F.O.s
- flight instructors
- enlisted personnel in the armed forces
- medical students working part time to pay their way through school

Ever get hired by a poor person? I know you never will. You like the feel of class struggle, but it really isn't going to help you. Wear the Che t-shirt and parrot the lines, but you know who pays the bills. Funny you try to deny it.

I'm trying to figure out how 3 decades of historically low marginal tax rates leading to the country collapsing under its own weight is proving me wrong.