Wow, this has become quite the display.

I know that Delta and Northwest were good, safe carriers with professional pilots. SWA pilots did not start the thread creep on FAA violations, government influence, and the Delta Conspiracy Theory. Someone insisted that we make this thread about Delta/NW, so here we are.

It is easy to cherry-pick articles and claim that your company is being screwed by the government. I'd say that my "Northwest Conspiracy Theory" is at least as well documented and convincing as the "Delta Conspiracy Theory."

While that is an interesting footnote, this thread is not about NWA or DAL or anybody else. It's about UAL and CAL merging, and the government requiring a divestiture of slots to SWA. I know you keep wanting to change the subject and make it about others. But my rhetorical questions still stand. I say rhetorical because you couldn't possibly answer them. Those questions are:

1. How does SWA do it? SWA has nothing to do with the UAL/CAL merger, yet the government delivers slots to SWA from the deal. How do they do that?

2. Could it be the coziness with FAA and SWA continues with regard to delivering slots to SWA? While other airlines are accused of FAA coziness, those airlines don't get slots or shields from fines for their coziness. SWA gets slots and a shield from fines until just very recently. Is this just coincidence? Don't know.

Carl

Once again, the only diversion is on your part. The title of this thread is not "how to cover up the Northwest mess." It is SWA into EWR. Nothing about DAL or NWA or anything else you keep trying to toss out.

Carl

You're the one that made the thread creep dude. If you're not a SWA pilot, then I guess you're right

I know you don't want government influence talked about, but it is front and center with regard to how SWA pulled off obtaining slots from the mergers of 2 companies to which it had no role or ownership stake. All the other stuff is from your ilk trying to change the subject of SWA getting slots into EWR.

By the way, what's up with that creepy avatar?

Carl

Now this I can agree with 100%.

more lame. Watchn people duke it out online is funny. I can imagine their face when they click post. "oh, i got em now"

Carl,

BK rules and laws protecting assets that should have been sold to pay creditors? I see, it it is okay to do that and then when you want to swap slots to create a monopoly at given airports or pick those who you will compete with that is also okay? As a former stock holder of DAL I would certainly like to get my value that was lost back after BK. As a frequent flyer with DAL, it was not pleasant to see the award miles increased to a level which also decreased my value and "investment" after BK. As an employee of a competing airline I certainly don't trust DAL/NWA to do anything ethical if they can get away with holding on to valuable slots through BK and a merger. Do I fault them for the BK laws --- No. I will certainly not trust them to do the right thing especially when they wish to hand slots to "anyone but" SWA.


The Oscar

You confuse chapter 11 with chapter 7. With chapter 7, what you state above is correct. With chapter 11, only assets that are seen by a judge to help turn the company around are protected...everything else is sold. Or maybe you're not confusing them at all. You realize that you're saying that NWA, DAL, UAL, CAL, etc should have had all their assets sold to pay creditors? That would have only left SWA and a few others after 9/11. I get it now.

That is pretty unintelligible. Don't see how the BK process has anything to with this...if I even understand what the heck you were trying to say here.

I'm pretty disappointed in my SWA mileage account as well.

Does SWA do the right thing when they come to a city pair with 29 dollar fares until the others are scaled way back - then become the airline with the highest fares?

Carl