I see your point. It just sucks for those of us that still have to work for double our age....

Very good catch son, you win today's grand prize........what did you say? Must be my old age.

The secret is not a secret at all. It's common knowledge. Live well with in your means, so you have plenty of savings. It's called financial responsibility, and if more people in this country would have it then we wouldn't have gotten in our last recession to begin with. Don't buy a house you really can't afford.

As far as raising the retirement age due to med advances, I don't really give a rats rear end whether someone can hold a 1st class med past 60 or not. You want to keep flying, go get a charter gig. Point is THEY benefited off of those that were required to retire at 60, and know they are benefiting from NOT having to retire at 60. Many of those people have full pensions, yet still hang out in the highest paying WB seats (AA 777 CA, NWA 744 CA, etc) PREVENTING those junior to them from getting a shot at those earnings before they turn 60. THAT is SELFISH.

BTW, a career with UAW is about as steady as being an Airline Pilot. Just take a survey in DTW.

No matter where you stand on this topic, this post is something that cannot be argued. Add to it the fact that nobody (not even Captain America himself) can argue that they are as skilled an airman in their 60's as they were in their 50's, and all should realize it is a safety issue.

Carl

Yeah, what he said. +1

Just think guys - less than 2 1/2 years until the first age 65 discrimination lawsuit.

Scoop

Ya know Scoop, it wouldn't suprise me.

I think you should raise it to 70. In 20 years. That'll give you nearly 20 years of data to prove 65 was safe.

But J29 is spot on. Its the same as FA's who didn't mind when older FA's were forced to retire but once they were they complained and now some are so old they serve only as token FA's with another required to actually do their job for them.

BUT, my understanding with the age 65 was that ICAO was 65 and it created a problem when 60+ pilots flew into the US. Is that true? If it is true, then unless ICAO does it I don't see how we can do it because you'd limit 65+ pilots to domestic flying only... and that'll surely kill them.

My main issue with age 60 was that you were forced to retire before you could collect retirement. Age 65 passed and that issue has been resolved. Age 70 is a stroke waiting to happen.

Young guys like myself are just waiting for the 65 yr old guys to retire so there can be some movement! Another age increase would just suck!