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hc0fitted , 12-22-2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan1234

You don't know what you don't know.

Furthermore, 350 hours and some "real world flying"!? - Please enlighten us on what "real world flying" can happen in your first 350 hours. Also, if you would have ever towed banners, or at least flown with someone who has, you wouldn't have made that ridiculous statement.

You can't teach experience.

I was merely giving an example . You know the one like the CRJ captain being incapacitated during an approach to minimums with wind shear. Is it likely? No, but it can happen right?. Sorry if I offended you about the banner towing. Please if there is more to it than flying a tailwheel around under basic VFR in a circle, please enlighten me.
Of course I agree you cant teach experience.

#122

lakehouse , 12-22-2010 06:24 AM

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I have it mildly and most pilots out there got it, esp at the airline level. How many line guys can spell business, without saying in their head bus-i-ness, or else they would write biznes, leave the kid alone.

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Originally Posted by wizepilot

I hope you are not saying that I am dyslexic As a matter of fact, I trained a gentleman who is severely dyslexic for his instrument rating some years ago. Quite a hurdle for him. But he is doing just fine. And your reply is....?

#123

USMCFLYR , 12-22-2010 06:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hc0fitted

Sorry if I offended you about the banner towing. Please if there is more to it than flying a tailwheel around under basic VFR in a circle, please enlighten me.
Of course I agree you cant teach experience.

Here is what a few others experienced in banner towing had to say about it:

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There is nothing quite as fun as towing banners with an O-360 SuperCub. I did some banner towing in Atlanta one summer, but I do not remember having the FAA observation. Maybe they skipped it I am not sure. It was great learning experience. I recommend it highly for fresh commercial pilots, particularly beach towing ops. But be very careful since there are a lot of gotchas in it. You need to be good at tailwheel airplanes, good at stick and rudder especially in winds, and be good at staying up with the airplane while towing for hours at a time. All that plus being responsible for laying out the banner and packing it up, doing cross countries, and dodging other rag draggers at events makes it pretty challenging. The pay isn't any good as you know. Flight training is a much better proposition for time building in terms of risk exposure, pay, seasonality, and physical demand. I wouldn't want to do banner towing more than a summer or two.

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I got to have some fun flying banners while working for a skydiving outfit. The plane was unusual in that it was a 182. My training consisted of the chief pilot telling me to take off, get a little altitude and throw the hook out. He also reminded me not to snag the nosewheel picking it up. He stayed on the ground. Yeah, I thought it a bit different also but it was kinda like my Navajo checkout but that's a story for another day.Picking up the banner was the most fun part. I'd trim the nose for 70, pick a glide angle and reduce power. As soon as I'd pass the poles the power went to full and Vx was held. Got lucky and never missed a pick up. Flying around Chicago was fun with the banner.

I never did banner towing, but it seems that the intricacies of tailwheel flying and flying low and slow would seem to teach / strengthen some basics of flying. If there was x/c time involved in repositioning of the aircraft up and down the coasts for example then I would think that this would be valuable time too.

USMCFLYR

#124

USMCFLYR , 12-22-2010 06:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rickt86

I have it mildly and most pilots out there got it, esp at the airline level. How many line guys can spell business, without saying in their head bus-i-ness, or else they would write biznes, leave the kid alone.

Are you actually saying that MOST airline pilots have some form of diagnosed dyslexia?
Wiki states:

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It is believed that dyslexia can affect between 5 to 10 percent of a given population although there have been no studies to indicate an accurate percentage

USMCFLYR

#125

lakehouse , 12-22-2010 07:05 AM

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Dyslexia gives you positive skills, dyslexics are found in computers and tech based jobs, many pilots are dyslexic. I would not say most, but I would say a much much higher percent than 5-10%. So I would say the amount of pilots with dyslexia is far higher than the national average.

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR

Are you actually saying that MOST airline pilots have some form of diagnosed dyslexia?
Wiki states:

USMCFLYR

#126

hc0fitted , 12-22-2010 07:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCFLYR

Here is what a few others experienced in banner towing had to say about it:

I never did banner towing, but it seems that the intricacies of tailwheel flying and flying low and slow would seem to teach / strengthen some basics of flying. If there was x/c time involved in repositioning of the aircraft up and down the coasts for example then I would think that this would be valuable time too.

USMCFLYR

Thank you, Sir for sharing that insightful information . !!

#127

USMCFLYR , 12-22-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hc0fitted

Thank you, Sir for sharing that insightful information . !!

You're welcome.

Also - if you use to the 'Advanced' search option and search for 'banner' (only in the titles), you'll come up with 28 other threads discussing the pros/cons, dos and don'ts, and other advice on finding banner towing work. The quotes I posted were only from the first thread I came across that detailed some of the goods/others regarding banner towing.

USMCFLYR

#128

blade120 , 01-11-2011 05:36 PM

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Man 300 hrs tuff, its highly unlikely you can get a job with less than a thousand hours these days insurance co's are jerks. But if youcan get a job fueling airplanes or service related industry. You have to create your own breaks, and basically offer to sit right seat for free you can get a few hours here and there. Stay Persistant!!!!!