Besides, they're just pilots and insurance will cover the hull loss. After all, no passengers were killed, so its not a problem. Right?

Amen to that....all life is sacred.

And look how long that took, or rather, it taking from time of most recent accident/deaths to fruition.

Rest In Peace.
fbh

Exactly........

Wow, I didn't know that's what caused the UPS fire in Philly. That morning I drove past the airport on I-95 as I commuted to McGuire AFB. Those guys were very lucky.

This has me worried about a cell phone in a checked bag or overhead baggage that has a battery that experiences a thermal runway.

Our unions better get on this !!

Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
Narrator: You wouldn't believe.
Woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
Narrator: A major one.
[Plane turns heavily, narrator thinks to himself]: Every time the plane banked sharply, I prayed for a crash, or mid air collision, I wonder what the insurance claim for something like that would be.

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Time for you to head back to the planet Debbie. Your spacepod is double parked and the meter is expired.

There is an FAA finding out that shows a marked increase in KNOWN cargo and baggage fires caused by batteries since 1991. During the '91-'95 time frame there were 5, since '06 it has grown to 55.

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My understanding is that CAPA and IBT have continued to push the issue and were going to try and get it added to the TSA funding bill since it got killed on the FAA reauthorization funding bill. I'm guessing ALPA is on it as well. The pushback from the manufacturing industry is huge and they are throwing a LOT of money at killing the amendment.

Hey, what the heck...it's only a couple of cargo pilots, right? Just a "cost of doing business" to them.

My point exactly, this points to complete regulatory failure, the only groups actually doing something about this are within private industry. Voting present just doesn't get it.

Not a single NTSB report has named the batteries as a causal factor. Read them yourself.

Please feel free to quote anything to the contrary.

Until you have had the "pleasure" of participating in an investigation involving your friends, you obviously don't understand the failure.