Why cant you just be happy for someone who has moved on to something better. If these dirt bag companies would take care of their employees, then the employees would for the most part take care of the company. It's a two way street. Maybe he was promised something that was not delivered on. You have got to be management.

Exactly. Do you think a good paying job actually has any issues with it?

Good pay and benefits attract good employees. Period. Throw in a good schedule and you have happy employees. Happy, productive employees produce revenue.

My current employer, one that treats its people well, recently instituted training contracts after one guy went all the way through ground school, the sim, got his 135.293 ride, and quit the next day. Not every new hire is a little angel.

I wanted to work here, and I expect to be here for at least a few years. I had no issue signing the contract. IF I were to leave for greener pastures (maybe someone will offer me that job that pays millions and only flies one day per year), I will honor my promise and pay the remainder of the contract.

"But they don't treat me nicely." Tough. Next time do the due diligence, research the company, take off the SJS glasses, and figure out if it is really a place you want to go. It is kinda like if I bought a car from you for 12 payments of $1000, took it home, later found out it needed brakes, and said, "It isn't any good. I'm not paying." You probably would be a little unhappy.

If you don't want to comply with the terms of the agreement, don't sign! IF you do sign, stay or pay. Honoring one's promise is what big boys and girls do.

So your employers screening process failed?

And some people also have no understanding of a small business (or largeer business for that matter) which might rely on very expensive training - especiallyy training that is useful elsewhere in the career.

I'm sure that if either of you were small airline owners or managers that you would not have to insistute any type of training contract because you would treat, pay, and respect your employees so well that pilots/crews would be beating down your doors to work for your company for a lifetime career.

Unfortunately - not all are.

If your targeted job requires a training contract - know what you are getting into and what the conditions are in your particular state if you are worried about it.

On the other side of the issue is the morality of sign a contract (employer or employee) and then trying to get out of it without following the ocntract. Pilots often bemoan the meployer when they break the contract and then hail their own when a pilot breaks the contract. Sort of like raising children - - -what exactly are you teaching them?

JNB - I'm sure your employer has a 100% fool proof future wmplyee screeing program in place that has never failed right?

Yep, after 20 years in business, one got through.

Well, it's pretty thorough, but some people still wash out. Since they are usually within one year, they get let-go. No training contract of course.

I was responding to the idea that "one guy" making it through and quitting after training in 20 years isn't really bad odds. It would likely take more money to create and enforce a training contract than would be recouped if they screen that well in the first place.

Everybody should look up to this guy! He is Mr. Do No Wrong, hell I bet you never bust a reg, or speed by even 1kt, and write up everything even on go home leg.

no, it's called personal responsibility, researching your job, and not screwing over others.

I thought these training contracts weren't legal anyway? If so, I don't see trying to get out of one of these contracts as screwing anyone over. An employer doesn't own their employees.