How did we get from the U.S. majors flying all the jets except for some grandfathered and inefficient BAE-146s to a major airline pilot group voting to allow an outsourced fleet of 325 76 seaters with first class and mainline/regional block hour ratios that have an easy escape clauses for management easily escape that part of the agreement?

What major airline group gave away the first 50-seaters? The first 70 seaters? The first 76 seaters? What were the circumstances in which they gave these away? Was it under the duress of bankruptcy, after a strike or simply a trade for better terms in the rest of the contract without even putting up a fight?

Airline pilot services are a cartel of sorts. Guess why cartels fail?

We don't allow a fleet of 325 76 seaters. And even if this TA passes we STILL won't be allowing a fleet of 325 76 seaters.

And where are the easy escape clauses? Have you still not read Sec 2 of our current contract or TA?

True, 223 90 seaters configured with 76 seats, and 102 70 seaters.

Until 2015 when the 125 50 seaters and 102 76 seaters are deemed uneconomical.

Question for the DAL quys. Saw a few of the "Negotiating Notepads" on another forum about various sections of the TA but haven't seen one on the scope issue. Has there been one published?

Thanks,
Lee

Technically, they're 70 seaters with some configured to 65 seats.

I read it and nothing I saw in it trumps this Sec 1 exit clause for management to escape the mainline/regional block hour ratios.

Company will be excused from compliance with the provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does not have control is the cause of such non-compliance.

Feel free to point out what indicates otherwise.

And eventually those 70 seaters could be exchanged for more 90 seaters configured for first class and a total of 76 seaters.

Read Sec 2 Definitions

And eventually another 9/11 type event could happen and half the list could be furloughed. Do you honestly think you can "what if" and protect yourself from every scenario? You don't trust the language in the TA because it's an escape clause, but management has the exact same language in our current contract.

I did, and didn't see anything that invalidated the Sec 1 mainline/regional block hour ratio exit clauses for management. Feel free to point out what you seem reluctant to demonstrate.