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Quote: What's pay like at the academy flight schools?
$27,000 - 42,000 for line instructors. Luftansa is the highest I've seen. Management maybe in the 50k? With Chief instructors in 80k?

They entice you with bigger pay usually to deal with bigger problems with students. The exception I think is Luftansa, which has good students, but you have to convert your license to JAA.

If you are going to do this route, especially with the chinese/koreans, get your time in as fast as possible and get out. Work 6 days a week. Some people have no clue what they are getting themselves into with the foreign market.
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Quote: If you are going to do this route, especially with the chinese/koreans, get your time in as fast as possible and get out. Work 6 days a week. Some people have no clue what they are getting themselves into with the foreign market.
It's definitely not "that" bad. I would say that it's not a job for someone with a short fuse. It requires a lot of patience, but I ended up really liking most of the Chinese students I worked with.

After a few years of teaching them I did start to feel burnt out though. I never got that feeling with American students.
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Is TransPac hiring? I instructed there and for the most part enjoyed my time. My Chinese students were pretty cool dudes and decent pilots.

Starting pay was salary at around $30-31k with benefits, 401k, holiday pay, bonuses etc. I liked that they did Halloween/Xmas stuff for the staff/students, fun days where they had dunk tank and you could dunk the check instructors/CEO/management. Good part was that you got flight time fast. I was getting around 4-5 hours a day 5 days a week. Adds up quick!
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Quote: What's pay like at the academy flight schools?
In the $20s to $40s per year. Depends on what outfit you get on with.
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Quote: Is TransPac hiring? I instructed there and for the most part enjoyed my time. My Chinese students were pretty cool dudes and decent pilots.

Starting pay was salary at around $30-31k with benefits, 401k, holiday pay, bonuses etc. I liked that they did Halloween/Xmas stuff for the staff/students, fun days where they had dunk tank and you could dunk the check instructors/CEO/management. Good part was that you got flight time fast. I was getting around 4-5 hours a day 5 days a week. Adds up quick!
Starting pay is down to 25k now I think and they're requiring an MEI. Everything else you say is still accurate. As far as I've heard from people still there they aren't hiring right now. I guess they just had to lay some people off recently too.
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I hear ATP is doing well student wise, but the pay is "peanuts & popcorn".
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I don't know what it is now but when I instructed there in 2008 it was $2000 a month (you are a contractor so figuring out your taxes is up to you) and if you wanted to use their housing I think it was 500 a month? Not sure about that as I lived with the in-laws when I was there.
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Quote: It's definitely not "that" bad. I would say that it's not a job for someone with a short fuse. It requires a lot of patience, but I ended up really liking most of the Chinese students I worked with.

After a few years of teaching them I did start to feel burnt out though. I never got that feeling with American students.
You're right, some of them aren't that bad. However, the others are less than pleasing. I would say the quality of students sent over recently has been very disappointing. It's usually not a language issue either, but a lack of motivation. Playing video games every night.. unacceptable.

From what I heard, TransPac is hiring part-time only. No benefits, and 3/5 pay of 27k for full timers. MEI required.
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Quote: I hear ATP is doing well student wise, but the pay is "peanuts & popcorn".
Is this location specific? I was at FXE in June and it was nothing but crickets..
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I was with Transpac for two years and they pay quite well for a flight school. Right now they are overstaffed and short on students because they are having trouble with their china negotiations since they are almost exclusively Chinese students. So it will be very difficult to get hired by them right now.
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