So can anyone tell me where my math is wrong or what the heck is up with the 777 Cap vacancies or lack there of for the L-UAL domiciles.

538 total 777 captains. CAL side has 189 777 captains and 22 planes for a staffing ratio of 8.6 per plane. UAL side has 349 777 captains and 52 planes for a staffing ratio of 6.7 per plane. Plus UAL domiciles show total retirements of (9+8+4+2)=23 retirements which brings staffing below the Min value posted in 3 out of the 4 domiciles but still no vacancies posted.

And, let's not forget the 5 retirements on the 747 which is staffed to a ratio of 6.4 while the 787 is staffed to a ratio of 8.7 for now and a projected Q4 ending ratio of 10.8!

Me thinks this stinks to high heaven.

Anybody got a clue on what's up with this

I'm guessing some of the 777 staffing ratio disparity is due to the fact that the CAL 777's are flying all long haul trip except London.

I'm not surprised one bit. They are hellbent to fry us and they're not done yet.

That can't be true. l-UAL had too many pilots, remember?

I'm afraid I don't understand how segment length affects staffing ratios. It may be true that L-UAL flies fewer blockhours per plane, but that would not directly correlate with segment length. I can do a 3 day domestic trip worth 24 hours or I can do a 3 day Istanbul worth 20 hours not to mention I think your basic assumption that L-CAL does longer flights on the 777 is incorrect, but you'd have to pull the schedules and have a look to be certain. I know in IAD the 777 does nothing but extreme long haul like China, Kuwait, Dubai, and Japan with LHR being the only "short hop".

"You gotta get your mind right"

Iad also does fra and some domestic with the 777, sorry no chart to show you. Not sure if it really matters with the captain staffing, I would understand the longer hauls and double augments making a difference on the fo side.

I think it may have to do with the fact that they are still behind on training on the UA side from the whole ORD 747 closing debacle. They still have displaced 747 guys waiting on 777 training, and other pilots that got bids to the triple that haven't gone to school either. those guys are prob going to fill up the training thru November on the UA side, so the only training capacity they have right now is on the CAL side (in the 777). I would imagine that we will see some SFO 777 bids coming up soon, but not too many as they will be bumping LAX and SFO 400 folks soon, so they can re-open ORD 747, Brilliant!!!!

Bingo! How many crayons do some need to connect the dots?

Actually I don't consider our Tel Aviv or your Kuwait and Dubai long haul. My normal schedule of India and China means I am only working 9 days a month. This means more pilots. Someone flying Tel Aviv needs to fly 12 or more days a month.