Um, so isn't that a pilot shortage? I think you are just using semantics... if there are not enough pilots because nobody is willing to work for the current pay, well then I would say that is a pilot shortage. The pay shortage is the root cause, but nevertheless there is a pilot shortage.

We've been over this dance a million times.

There's a shortage of pilots WILLING to work for poor pay. Period.

Add "qualified" to pilots in your statement and it's spot on.

Qualification was inferred.

Sorry,
It isn't about the money, exactly. Its about the job as it is today, after more than 15 years my job is worse than when I started, granted I net more, but the QOL is far, and I mean far worse than in 2000. I take home high 5, low 6 figures and wouldn't do it over again for 2x the money. Its the QOL that makes one realize that after 70K, it doesn't matter how much more you make. So I will disagree, no matter how much beyond 70K you make the reality of 11-13 days off makes it all, including the original 70K, just not worth it. Add some commuting and living on a crashpad floor or cheap hotel room, and that job at Homer Dipot looks pretty good.
And commuting to Newark to sit reserve for UAL doesn't make the grade either.

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Some of you are so emotionally invested in this idiocy that basic definitions are bent to suit your whims.
There IS a shortage of qualified pilots willing to work for the crap pay that is currently being offered.

Relax, it ain't exactly a zero sum proposition so far as defining reality is concerned; and it certainly changes NOTHING in terms of what we don't make either or both.

Speculating speculative speculations

I think in 3-5 years' time, there will be a genuine shortage by anyone's definition. The Big 3 will be alright, but regionals will especially suffer with only their lifers sticking around. A little further down the road, LCC's and smaller carriers will have problems. JetBlue, Allegiant, etc. Then, maybe, a decade from now, the majors might have small staffing problems. I think at worst they'll just decrease frequency to smaller cities. The public will definitely notice though, particularly anywhere covered by Essential Air Service or by a regional jet.

Bill Clinton: Firms will care more about people, less about profits

Airline managers must not have got the memo yet

Aren't they supposed to sell off the Dash's in 2016? Also they are based in EWR correct? Property taxes/COL there is way too high esp for being a crap hole area.

I still can't get my head around one basic question. Would the worst regionals have trouble finding pilots if the pay at the best majors doubled? Think about it.

The higher the pay and benefits at the big five the lower it can be at the rest. I heard JO say as much in a conversation I had with him many years ago. He will always believe it.