What is a Ready Room?

I'm quite familiar with the situation, events, and decisions described in the document you linked (a message from the FDX ALPA MEC Chairman) as I was part of the decision-making body that viewed the legislative track as a better way to reach our goals. While we did not agree that suing the FAA would be effective or predictable, we did not publicly condemn or attempt to undermine the efforts of the IPA. I hope you took some time to read one of the documents he linked (here: Legal summary ) as it very clearly and objectively lays out the facts and logic upon which our decision was based.

While we chose different paths, we sought the same goal -- inclusion of cargo pilots in Part 117. How UPS pilots could view FedEx pilots as working against them, or the other way around, is beyond me. I believe we have both been pulling in the same direction, albeit using different ropes.

If it's always going to come down to "do it our way or else", it will be very difficult for two large, diverse groups to work together, don't you think?






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A place where dreams go to die, usually filled with old men talking with their hands, searching for anything with the word free attached to it especially coffee, lots of *****ing, moaning and general complaining about everything under the sun. Pretty close?

Not at all!!!!

Sounds like APC.

Last 20 years:

ASAP (Thank you NWALPA)
HIMS
CVR transcript exemption from court proceedings
FOQA use limitations
Official Party Status in NTSB accident investigations
Airport Safety Liaison program
Charter member of FAA RNP development committee
TCAS requirement for Part 135 aircraft
Official observer status within ICAO
NATS min separation rules
Retaining the jumpseat post-9/11
Hardened cockpit doors post-9/11
CASS
KCM
FFDO Program and its continued funding
Sleep Apnea change prevention
Cabotage/Foreign ownership limits retained
FAR 117 (ALPA Co-chaired and appointed ½ of all labor members of the ARC)

Couple other goodies more than 20 years back:
Aircraft weather radar requirement
Cargo Fire Detection/Suppression in commercial aircraft
GPWS requirement
Grooved Runways mandate
Runway distance to go markings
TAWS requirement (Enhanced GPWS)


Together we WILL get Cargo pilots included, they were in the initial language; it was CAA member lobbying to cut cargo out in the first place.

Let's keep this about working to FIX problems in the profession, not about some individual's feelings about the largest pilots union in the world.

(Oh, and only one of the four National officers has a mustache.)

Need to get your facts straight, more than a handful of what you list were a direct result of what the IPA achieved solely without the help of the mustache committee! LMAO

Hey Shaggy, do you mind giving specifics or do you just like throwing out generalizations?

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with facial hair. As you laugh your ass off, I can't help but think of Jack Nicholson's character in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.




Calling Nurse Ratched.






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Too bad that shot was from "The Shining", but you're so damed clever nonetheless.

Funny how when a UPS type wanders into a FDX thread, there's all manner of caterwauling.