Anyone at Women in Aviation care to post what the hiring forecast is for everyone from the briefings? I've heard United wants 780 additional pilots by 2017 for their 65-737 orders
Delta is 900 ish. I'm curious about all the others. Majors and LCCs

616 total for SWA but that is based on training capacity. Sounds like they want/need more but they don't have the capacity to do it, yet.

AA slide said 630. Recent Crew News said 730.

Do you know the percentage of OTS candidates out of the 730/630 figure?

It's not a straight answer. 730 is 61/month. 630 is 52/month.

PSA/PDT flows are a fixed 8/month. AE is 50% of the class, capped at 30.

So 61/month = 30 AE + 8 P/P = 38. 61 - 38 = 23. 276 slots for the year.
52/month = 26 AE + 8 P/P = 34. 52 - 34 = 18. 216 slots per year.

If the class size isn't the average the 50% AE flow will change while the P/P flow number won't.

Subtract the recallees coming back each month and the OTS drops.

OTS will come to an abrupt halt when the recallees show up in May after the May 6th drop dead date. The classes will be recallees until that group is back on property. Then the normal hiring (OTS + flows) will be in place.

The HUGE unknown is how many guys will come back May 6th? 50? 100? 150? 200? 300? Company's guessing 150 +/-.

So the year will have normal flow + OTS hiring, with a couple of returnees, through mid May. Then go 100% returnees until they're all back on property, then switch to flow + OTS with zero returnees.

So what percentage do YOU think the OTS's will be? See the problem? It's going to be a small number. 125? That's in the 20% range.

Let's be honest about the new AA (post merger) we are garbage compared to Delta United & FedEx... Why would anyone put effort into getting hired here with all of the flows, etc plus the worst contract in the major airlines & no profit sharing. With everyone hiring there are much better airlines to go to work for. Yes we have retirements coming and a lot of them. Everything else is a complete mess, our management, contract you name it.

Feel free to leave.

Focus! The question is how many numbers. We understand your frustration, but it is not what is being asked.


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Thanks for the detailed reply.

I understand your frustration but believe it or not, there are worst jobs out there
And the outlook at your carrier is better than at mine.