Who knows. The hype over the Carlsbad start-up plans has had more of what turned out to be 'Fake News' than POTUS's tweets.

One report has ADI with options on two Embraer 170s. Not quite 'single-aisle main line equipment' but more in keeping with ADI's existing 145 fleet (if you can have a fleet with 3-5 airframes...).

Also more in keeping with an economical business plan for a start-up. Not that this has held back many a start-up with big-and-shiny-jet-syndrome.

Also, it costs a lot of money to initiate a new aircraft type. Regulatory hurdles, training for pilots & maint, spare parts inventory, and on and on.

And poop is brown. What's your point?


GLA will never be a mainline. They'll never be a main anything. They're barely an excuse for a regional.

What I've noticed is that a lot of pilots or whoever you are Larry, have lots of inside "reports" when this is supposed to be private company knowledge that shouldn't be public. Maybe you should tell Great Lakes to let their shareholders know what's going on with the company.

I wonder how many employees actually own stock in their own company.

Lakes voluntarily de-listed their stock on the NASDAQ exchange a couple of years ago, saying that there was so little trading in it that it wasn't worth their time to do the required reporting. I believe they still qualify a publicly-held company, but with only a few shareholders.

Companies, like individuals, can make choices about what information they make public and what they keep private. Publicly-held companies are subject to various regulations about what information they must make public, including audit results and reports required by law, regulation or as a condition of some business arrangement (loans, union agreements, etc). They can then keep any other information private, either because it is proprietary to them (like business plans) or just because they think isn't anyone else's business.

I am neither a pilot (for anyone) nor an employee of Great Lakes Aviation. As a trained journalist, I try to be careful about what is reported as verifiable fact and what is 'informed supposition.' The post above is a combination of somewhat relevant facts (ie: ADI's current fleet), and possible outcomes. There isn't much information being made public about GLA these days, leaving us to guess and make possible assumptions.

Just for kicks, a few months back I shot them an email. I was stuck in the doldrums of CFI training so I was sending resumes to anything and everything, just to see what else was out there. A day or so later, I got an email back saying they were looking for ATP eligible applicants, and a far-too-ecstatic-sounding "check back in when you're close" response. That was maybe...September? Take that how you will in addition to losing UAS routes, further downsizing, and an earlier speculative comment about restructuring, who knows what's on the horizon? I mean honestly, whatever GLA's next move might be can't possibly be more surprising than the fact they have somehow managed to hobble along this long.

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/461875236

read the part about their new business strategy and get someone to expose this company for not issuing press releases in a professional format.

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/461875236

there is a shortage of pilots at all airlines and in the military.

Down to 8 cities now after losing PUB.

It would seem difficult for GLA to hire a Chief Pilot when it can't decide (or won't 'fess up) about its new aircraft types. In addition to the organizational details, you'd think the Chief Pilot would need to be type-rated in something the airline flies.

Otherwise, the intentions sound like the first chunk of realistic planning we've seen from GLA in some time. Good luck to 'em.

My point is that they won’t be mainline...but they will try using SJS to get a naive 175 driver to sign up.