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Quote: We seem to have a growing number of pilots joining the flight attendants in future Sherpa training feeling the need to travel with everything they own. The standard bag tip anywhere in the world is a buck a bag not a buck for 3 or 4 bags. It's one of the reasons we get less then optimal service and timeliness from some drivers. If you have to travel with the kitchen sink and your blowup doll tip appropriately.
This could be a dangerous thread....

I agree. The informal "standard" is $1/bag. With that being said, ..

1) The "standard" is also for the van driver to take my bags and place them in the back of the van/car. (This doesn't always happen.) If I have to throw my bags in the back, then the Captain's and F/A bags, I'm not tipping the van driver. (Fact, not fiction.)

2) The "standard" in this great Country (#MAGA) is to leave a tip for someone who has gone above and beyond their normal duties in the line of work. (e.g. You leave a larger tip [20%+] for your server with better customer service.) With that being said, I don't see a minimum requirement to give each van driver a "participation medal" (tip) for doing their job, if the ride felt like an Indy 500 qualification run or I felt like the van ride endangered my life more than my Afghanistan deployment.

And lastly,

3) Sometimes I don't have more than $1 or $2 in my wallet. (Travel with plastic instead of cash.) We all have a choice in life. I don't receive tips from the passengers when I make a nice landing, or avoid a serious line of Thunderstorms. I don't feel bad about missing the $1/bag standard every once in a while either.
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Quote: This could be a dangerous thread....

I agree. The informal "standard" is $1/bag. With that being said, ..

1) The "standard" is also for the van driver to take my bags and place them in the back of the van/car. (This doesn't always happen.) If I have to throw my bags in the back, then the Captain's and F/A bags, I'm not tipping the van driver. (Fact, not fiction.)

2) The "standard" in this great Country (#MAGA) is to leave a tip for someone who has gone above and beyond their normal duties in the line of work. (e.g. You leave a larger tip [20%+] for your server with better customer service.) With that being said, I don't see a minimum requirement to give each van driver a "participation medal" (tip) for doing their job, if the ride felt like an Indy 500 qualification run or I felt like the van ride endangered my life more than my Afghanistan deployment.

And lastly,

3) Sometimes I don't have more than $1 or $2 in my wallet. (Travel with plastic instead of cash.) We all have a choice in life. I don't receive tips from the passengers when I make a nice landing, or avoid a serious line of Thunderstorms. I don't feel bad about missing the $1/bag standard every once in a while either.
I usta carry at least a hundred in "ones" just to make change for the big-buck drinkers.
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Quote: I usta carry at least a hundred in "ones" just to make change for the big-buck drinkers.
Or the girls trying to work their way through college? Either way, it's all good.
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Quote: So riddle me this: how is it that I (millennial new hire fo) often fly with CAs twice and FAs three times my age, yet i am sometimes (not infrequently either!) the only one who cracks open my wallet to fish out a buck or two? For reference, I only ever travel with roll aboard and laptop bag and always keep my laptop bag with me on the van.
Hey easy with that, no way it could be true!

I once spotted a Captain, when he "got me back" the next day he only tipped a buck instead of $2. I didn't say anything. He noticed the next day I tipped my usual $1 a bag and he claimed he's never seen a "co pilot" tip more than $1. Ok.... Maybe he uses that trick to make a $1 every trip!
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I tip a five every time...try to make up for the poor practice of others....and I second the 20 or more for Christmas and Thanksgiving
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had a FA tell me "cops beat, firemen cheat, and pilots are cheap"....
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Quote: had a FA tell me "cops beat, firemen cheat, and pilots are cheap"....
That is such a spot-on observation, oh I mean stereotype.
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Quote: Sure thing Riddler. I'm just passing along my objective observations. When tips aren't given out most of the time it's youngsters. That's what I've seen and it's a fact. Anymore, most of our younger flight attendants never tip and the older ones maybe do fifty - seventy percent of the time. Why so defensive? If you're tippimg there's no need to defend those that don't.
In my recent past here, flying with guys in both seats, I've only witnessed one guy who didn't tip. He was a new hire and when I noticed it, I pulled an extra $1 out and gave it to the driver when he wasn't looking. I didn't want to shame him or anything. Some/most Guys take pay cuts coming over and with a family, things could be really tight at home...no big deal. The next morning he tipped the driver so I think he probably didn't have any singles that night and was too embarrassed to ask me to spot him. Other than that, I can't ever remember a Captain or FO not tip. I did have a Captain last year almost pass out when I gave the driver a $5 because I didn't have singles and the driver was really nice. I didn't feel like asking for change.

Trivia question...do you know what the word TIPS stands for?
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TIPS......Hmmm, Target Isipid Pilot Stinginess?
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Just don't be like one Delta CA I flew with a while back. He carried a Crowne Royal bag of silver dollars with him. He made a big production out of it, announcing "Now that's not 50 cents, thats TWO DOLLARS. Don't go throwing that in the hotel vending machine. Those are special!" Novel idea? Maybe. But his presentation made him look like a d-bag. It got really old by day 4. He was a nice guy otherwise.
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