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iflyalot 02-13-2018 03:17 PM

Shoes
 
Looking for recomendations for good comfortable durable work shoes

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tcco94 02-13-2018 04:19 PM

I have Ecco Helsinki shoe and I love them. Very durable and basic shoe. Will buy again easily when it's time. Not super cheap but I've tried the cheap shoe thing, hated it.

Cefiro 02-14-2018 06:42 AM

Ecco....durable and comfortable. Not cheap, but cheaper than replacing shoes every year.

bonanza 02-14-2018 10:47 AM

I am thinking of getting the Ecco Helsinki after all the reviews I read.

Check Complete 02-14-2018 11:49 AM

If you’re thinking of going into management you’ll need a pair that are pure white......

Blackwing 02-14-2018 10:09 PM

Anything by Clark's or Ecco.

Flogger 02-15-2018 03:42 AM

shoes
 
I have spent a lot of money on shoes, and I've bought cheap shoes. Neither last long due to Skydrol on the ramp, because even as Captain, I do half the walkarounds.

If you stay off the ramp as a Captain, spring for good quality shoes and they should last years.

No matter what you buy, get a pair of Superfeet orthotics.

Just my take.

qazWSX 02-15-2018 03:47 AM

Eccos hands down! Get a shine once a month and will last a looong time!

rickair7777 02-15-2018 05:00 AM

Eccos.

If you're lazy, slip-on Eccos and clip-on ties...

msprj2 02-15-2018 06:32 AM

ECCO Fusion II slip on's or tie.

ipdanno 02-15-2018 06:59 AM

Ariat Roper boots, with the composite shank. Keeps slush and de-ice fluid out of your socks and soles.

emersonbiguns 02-15-2018 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2528946)
Eccos.

If you're lazy, slip-on Eccos and clip-on ties...


Sounds like the slip-ons are the way to go! Perfect for airing out the dogs in the cockpit on those hot summer days.

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 09:14 AM

All due respect, why do people come on a forum to ask what kind of shoes they should wear? Professional pilots asking stupid questions like that.
Here's an answer. Wear whatever dress shoes that feel the best and comply with company policy.
Good grief, we're professional pilots telling someone what shoes to wear. If you take on the responsibility to fly a $30 million jet with a full load of passengers in the back, then you should take it upon yourself to try on several types of shoes and be able to make the best decision on what type to wear.
What's next, underwear?

dera 02-15-2018 09:17 AM

A guy who calls himself an AC500 "captain" comes and tells what questions are appropriate for professional pilots to ask.

I like Loakes. I've got 3 pairs that I rotate through. Works well for me.

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529110)
A guy who calls himself an AC500 "captain" comes and tells what questions are appropriate for professional pilots to ask.

I like Loakes. I've got 3 pairs that I rotate through. Works well for me.

Thanks for stalking my profile pointing that out. Need to change that since that I've been flying for the airlines the last few years.

dera 02-15-2018 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529114)
Thanks for stalking my profile pointing that out. Need to change that since that I've been flying for the airlines the last few years.

No need to stalk anything. It's openly visible to anyone who sees your messages.

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529116)
No need to stalk anything. It's openly visible to anyone who sees your messages.

So I flew single-pilot in an AC-500 years ago. What does that have to do with people who can't figure out what shoes to wear to work?
You going to help dress these people too if they ask?

emersonbiguns 02-15-2018 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529130)
You going to help dress these people too if they ask?

Can you clarify things for me?

Is it OK to ask about headsets?

Roller bags?

Brands of shirts?

Electronic logbook software?

Just need to know so I don't upset you if I have a question...

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 2529139)
Can you clarify things for me?

Is it OK to ask about headsets?

Roller bags?

Brands of shirts?

Electronic logbook software?

Just need to know so I don't upset you if I have a question...

If I need to answer this because you don't know the difference between comfortable shoes and high dollar flight equipment, then good luck on making real decisions that are best for you.
Here's my question, which validates my point.
Are you going to buy whatever shoes others suggest, or are you going to buy whatever brand and pair feel best for you? Buying shoes is not the same as buying a $300 roller board or $900 headset. So why ask about a common, affordable, everyday item that everyone wears? In the end, you may end up with a cheap pair of slip-ons from Payless or decide the $150 Johnston & Murphy's are worth the investment. If you wear them and hate them after two weeks, try another pair. Everybody's feet and type of walking are different. Point is, you're asking about something that you WEAR on a daily basis. How are others going to know what shoe you should choose? The other flight equipment items that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars are worth asking about.

dera 02-15-2018 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529154)
If I need to answer this because you don't know the difference between comfortable shoes and high dollar flight equipment, then good luck on making real decisions that are best for you.
Here's my question, which validates my point.
Are you going to buy whatever shoes others suggest, or are you going to buy whatever brand and pair feel best for you? Buying shoes is not the same as buying a $300 roller board or $900 headset. So why ask about a common, affordable, everyday item that everyone wears? In the end, you may end up with a cheap pair of slip-ons from Payless or decide the $150 Johnston & Murphy's are worth the investment. If you wear them and hate them after two weeks, try another pair. Everybody's feet and type of walking are different. Point is, you're asking about something that you WEAR on a daily basis. How are others going to know what shoe you should choose? The other flight equipment items that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars are worth asking about.

Sorry you're so ignorant about clothing. My shoes cost around the same per pair as my Briggs & Riley suitcase. There are even forums dedicated to shoes.
You see, if you ask me, no-one should wear sub-300 dollar shoes.
If you don't like what people are talking about, move on and go elsewhere.

Few pointers on buying decent shoes that will last. Don't buy anything with glued soles, and make sure the insoles are leather. I prefer Goodyear welted Dainite soles, they are great in every weather and last a long time. They can also be replaced when they wear out.
Good quality leather protected correctly will take more abuse than you'd imagine.

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529284)
Sorry you're so ignorant about clothing. My shoes cost around the same per pair as my Briggs & Riley suitcase. There are even forums dedicated to shoes.
You see, if you ask me, no-one should wear sub-300 dollar shoes.
If you don't like what people are talking about, move on and go elsewhere.

Few pointers on buying decent shoes that will last. Don't buy anything with glued soles, and make sure the insoles are leather. I prefer Goodyear welted Dainite soles, they are great in every weather and last a long time. They can also be replaced when they wear out.
Good quality leather protected correctly will take more abuse than you'd imagine.

Your ignorant response was about one of my previous jobs in my profile, which had nothing to do with telling someone what kind of shoes to buy.
If you're so butthurt and offended by other people's opinions, then move on yourself. Otherwise, I'll post whatever comment I please. You don't have to like it or agree with it.
By the way, your ignorance about clothing stands out well. Anyone can get a good quality pair of shoes for way less than $300.

dera 02-15-2018 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529298)
Your ignorant response was about one of my previous jobs in my profile, which had nothing to do with telling someone what kind of shoes to buy.
If you're so butthurt and offended by other people's opinions, then move on yourself. Otherwise, I'll post whatever comment I please. You don't have to like it or agree with it.
By the way, your ignorance about clothing stands out well. Anyone can get a good quality pair of shoes for way less than $300.

I guess good quality for me is different than good quality for you.

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529301)
I guess good quality for me is different than good quality for you.

I wear high quality leather shoes that are comfortable, durable, and well made for about $100.Try convincing some of these newbies that don't know how to shoe shop to drop $300 on a new pair of kicks. Good for you and your $300 pair of shoes. I'm so impressed.

Going Missed 02-15-2018 01:14 PM

Depends on your budget:

Budget:
Deer Stags Brooklyn

Mid-Range:
Ecco Helsinki

High End:
Allen Edmonds Park Avenue

The Deer Stags last about a year before falling apart, after two years the Eccos were wearable but were showing their age, and the Allen Edmonds are not as comfortable but still look like a million bucks after 5 years.

dera 02-15-2018 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Going Missed (Post 2529332)
Depends on your budget:

Budget:
Deer Stags Brooklyn

Mid-Range:
Ecco Helsinki

High End:
Allen Edmonds Park Avenue

The Deer Stags last about a year before falling apart, after two years the Eccos were wearable but were showing their age, and the Allen Edmonds are not as comfortable but still look like a million bucks after 5 years.

Park Avenues are a classic, comfort is mainly a function of how well the last fits you, and like you said, good quality shoes lasts a long time while still looking great.

dera 02-15-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529307)
I wear high quality leather shoes that are comfortable, durable, and well made for about $100.Try convincing some of these newbies that don't know how to shoe shop to drop $300 on a new pair of kicks. Good for you and your $300 pair of shoes. I'm so impressed.

You can not find high quality leather shoes for $100, unless you score a clearance item, or buy used.
You can find somewhat wearable stuff for that price, but high quality they are not.
Just shows you know nothing about shoes.

The Eccos last a year or maybe two, they are butt-ugly but cheap. Not a bad choice. No-one would ever call them "high quality" though.

rickair7777 02-15-2018 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529350)
Y

The Eccos last a year or maybe two, they are butt-ugly but cheap. Not a bad choice. No-one would ever call them "high quality" though.

? Mine have lasted for years. The ones I had before lasted for years and only got replaced because the sharp corner of my roll-aboard frame cut a hole in one. Not the shoe's fault.

I would call them good value, if not the latest high-fashion (which is pretty moot when wearing a uniform anyway).

You can go high-dollar, keep them shined, replace soles as needed, and hope the uppers never get damaged. But that's more of a philosophical choice.

dera 02-15-2018 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2529377)
? Mine have lasted for years. The ones I had before lasted for years and only got replaced because the sharp corner of my roll-aboard frame cut a hole in one. Not the shoe's fault.

I would call them good value, if not the latest high-fashion (which is pretty moot when wearing a uniform anyway).

You can go high-dollar, keep them shined, replace soles as needed, and hope the uppers never get damaged. But that's more of a philosophical choice.


Mine pretty much fell apart after a few months in Arizona. The soles literally melted.
I tried the cheap but cheerful for a while, but decided even at work, the "high-dollar" way seems to work out well.

emersonbiguns 02-15-2018 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529284)
...my Briggs & Riley suitcase.

Which do you use?

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529350)
You can not find high quality leather shoes for $100, unless you score a clearance item, or buy used.
You can find somewhat wearable stuff for that price, but high quality they are not.
Just shows you know nothing about shoes.
The Eccos last a year or maybe two, they are butt-ugly but cheap. Not a bad choice. No-one would ever call them "high quality" though.

Hate to break it to you Mr. Shoe salesman, but you can, in fact, find a good quality, new pair of dress shoes for around $100. We can go round and round with this stupid subject, but I can tell you with confidence that hardly any new regional first officer is going to take your advice and drop $300+ on a pair of shoes.

Foxy 02-15-2018 02:29 PM

Any recommendations for women's shoes? My Clarke's are falling apart very quickly. There's a company out of Portugal called SkyPro that advertises on here, but I haven't seen or met anyone who's used their products.

I may just go back to Dr. Martens.

~Fox

emersonbiguns 02-15-2018 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529405)
... you can, in fact, find a good quality, new pair of dress shoes for around $100.

Can you tell me how buying a $100 pair of shoes every couple of years is cheaper than buying a $300 pair once?

bnkangle 02-15-2018 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529107)
All due respect, why do people come on a forum to ask what kind of shoes they should wear? Professional pilots asking stupid questions like that.
Here's an answer. Wear whatever dress shoes that feel the best and comply with company policy.
Good grief, we're professional pilots telling someone what shoes to wear. If you take on the responsibility to fly a $30 million jet with a full load of passengers in the back, then you should take it upon yourself to try on several types of shoes and be able to make the best decision on what type to wear.
What's next, underwear?

Got sand in your vag?


I read reviews and look for input before buying lots of things, even stuff like laundry detergent and bed sheets. It’s called being smart with your money.

joseolay 02-15-2018 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2529405)
Hate to break it to you Mr. Shoe salesman, but you can, in fact, find a good quality, new pair of dress shoes for around $100. We can go round and round with this stupid subject, but I can tell you with confidence that hardly any new regional first officer is going to take your advice and drop $300+ on a pair of shoes.


Don't waste your money on Eccos which are way overpriced for a through away shoe. If you're serious about quality and want to save money in the long run, buy shoes with leather soles and goodyear welts. If you're on a tight budget, buy a used pair on ebay. I can find a very nice new pair on ebay under $200. A resole with heels runs about $70.

But hey, square toed rubber soled shoes go nice with pleated pants and cellphone belt clips if you're into they kind of stuff.

joseolay 02-15-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 2529416)
Can you tell me how buying a $100 pair of shoes every couple of years is cheaper than buying a $300 pair once?

It's cheaper in the long run to buy the shoes with leather soles and goodyear welts, get them resoled with new heals for $70 and keep them going for years. Plus, they look 10x better than the ugly leather soled clunkers. Get a rotation going with several different styles.

TonyC 02-15-2018 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529301)

I guess good quality for me is different than good quality for you.


A common refrain among snobs who confuse cost for quality.



Deer Stags Nu Times

I wear a Timex, too.

If you need to throw away money to make yourself feel better, please e-mail me.






.

MidnightHauler 02-15-2018 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by bnkangle (Post 2529417)
Got sand in your vag?


I read reviews and look for input before buying lots of things, even stuff like laundry detergent and bed sheets. It’s called being smart with your money.

Good for you. Then start another forum on APC about bed sheets and laundry detergent.

dera 02-15-2018 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 2529396)
Which do you use?

Both Baseline, I've got the International carry-on expandable upright 2-wheel, and the carry-on wheeled garment bag.

I'll never have to buy another suitcase in my life. Both have a few million miles behind them already, only had to use the lifetime warranty once and that was for a cosmetic issue.

dera 02-15-2018 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2529443)
A common refrain among snobs who confuse cost for quality.



Deer Stags Nu Times

I wear a Timex, too.

If you need to throw away money to make yourself feel better, please e-mail me.






.

I buy good shoes because I can't afford to throw money away. I've got a few pairs that are close to 10 years old now.

futuraflyr 02-15-2018 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2529385)
Mine pretty much fell apart after a few months in Arizona. The soles literally melted.
I tried the cheap but cheerful for a while, but decided even at work, the "high-dollar" way seems to work out well.

I have experienced this issue with my Ecco rubber sole too. The rubber suddenly “dissolved” while walking, leaving large chunks of rubber in a trail behind me. Rumor was Ecco experimented with new polymer but it failed miserably. Unfortunately I’ll never go back.


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