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Tuffgong 07-05-2018 02:27 PM

True, Skywest can afford it. But we’re all grown adults here. We have choices..regionals are hiring like crazy with bonus. If you don’t lik Skywest, leave. My opinion

hawk21 07-05-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuffgong (Post 2628480)
True, Skywest can afford it. But we’re all grown adults here. We have choices..regionals are hiring like crazy with bonus. If you don’t lik Skywest, leave. My opinion


Or you know... vote no on the next garbage pay proposal. I blame the pilot group for letting the company push crap on us because we accept it most the time.

gojo 07-05-2018 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuffgong (Post 2628480)
True, Skywest can afford it. But we’re all grown adults here. We have choices..regionals are hiring like crazy with bonus. If you don’t lik Skywest, leave. My opinion

Grown adults, yes. And yes, we have choices. Choices we make give us wisdom and experience. The pros and cons are individually suited. And while passing on thousands of dollars may be money well spent for someone not wanting to commute. It’s not advice that should be given to everyone by saying regionals are like hookers. It’s whatever works for each individual and their personal situation.

Tuffgong 07-05-2018 03:56 PM

I’m with the fight, I think that Skywest/Pilots needs a Union. A union would have fought and potentially had a strike if demands were not met. Skywest at one time was the legacy. They are now losing their shine. They do need to increase the pay.

Union... how doe you get one???

amcnd 07-05-2018 04:45 PM

Reading the latest “from the top” it seems the company is in a “oh crap” we got caught trying to squeeze a crap TA in and the pulot group is ****ed... Before we get a union lets get them to match Endeavor. Then lets double down..

WidgetDriver 07-05-2018 07:09 PM

Skywest pilots you have more leverage than you realize. Tell Chip Childs to pound sand. You have leverage...use it.

amcnd 07-05-2018 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WidgetDriver (Post 2628653)
Skywest pilots you have more leverage than you realize. Tell Chip Childs to pound sand. You have leverage...use it.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves... we have enough leverage to get equal pay with atleast Republic.. and QOL...

rickair7777 07-05-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2628451)
That’s just dumb comparing regionals to hookers. At least try to pick one that won’t give you a STD. And yes, I’m using an analogy. Be smart about things. When comparing apples to apples, or even slightly different shades of apples, why would you try to advocate not being paid as a the professional you’re trained for? Student loans and flight training costs much more than even 5 years ago. And while Skywest May provide a livable wage for the minority that are single or don’t have student loans, I don’t condone leaving money on the table. Skywest can afford it.

I'm not saying YOU should leave money on the table.

I'm explaining this from SGU's perspective. If you don't understand where THEY are coming from, it's going to be hard to deal with them.

In the real world nobody cares about what's "fair", or that professionals "should" be compensated in a certain manner, or that somebody has a lot of student debt. They only care what the market will bear. They believe that their candidate pool values geography, which was very true in the past. Has that changed? I don't know, are they still filling classes?

I also think they don't care about a pilot union. They would like to drag it out as long as they can, to let inflation degrade the status quo.

IF they have real trouble filling classes, and IF the pilot group holds noob pay hostage, then they might have to pony up.

Check Complete 07-06-2018 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2628698)
Lets not get ahead of ourselves... we have enough leverage to get equal pay with atleast Republic.. and QOL...

The problem is we have SAPA representing us, and with that we will never get what we deserve.

Bozo 07-06-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2628981)
The problem is we have SAPA representing us, and with that we will never get what we deserve.

And who's fault is that?


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