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gojo 12-19-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2728160)
You my friend are a genius

By comparison, yes

Cefiro 12-19-2018 03:37 PM

United also owns part of Commutair and Republic. Good for Xjet to get new life though.

Melit 12-19-2018 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Cefiro (Post 2728199)
United also owns part of Commutair and Republic. Good for Xjet to get new life though.

And AA owns part of Mesa

JuniorFO 12-19-2018 04:05 PM

The way I see it going, the regionals that will survive are the ones that have a vested interest by mainline carriers.

Melit 12-19-2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 2728215)
The way I see it going, the regionals that will survive are the ones that have a vested interest by mainline carriers.

You haven’t been in this game long have you? Have you heard of Comair? Asa?

Tpinks 12-19-2018 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2727310)
Interesting. Anyone know how many of the 175s United owns? I know they own the entire Mesa fleet and some if not all of the 175s at RAH. Im not sure if they own any of the SkyWest 175s.

I ask because I can see all the United assets being transferred to ExpressJet now. We can start controlling our 70 seat regionals a little better and maybe get a better product.

Anyways I think this is a positive for United and we will see if it is a positive or a negative for United pilots......can't wait to see the New contract.

Lol! Get a better product? Stop awarding flying to carriers that can't support it and having 9 carriers all flying under United Express and whipsawing the flying. Take a play out of Delta's playbook and reward the flying to the best carriers, not the cheapest.

At Republic, we are posting amazing numbers (October we were scheduled for 28,482 flights and only canceled 2 the entire month), but we are also an expensive company. We are also already partly owned by United. We could staff these 25 aircraft right this moment with the delivery schedule starting in April, yet we did not get the contract. We tried to acquire TSH and United was the one that ended that. I'm convinced United is happy with being in second place.


Originally Posted by 4V14T0R (Post 2727473)
I’m pretty sure it’s only 12 hulls at YX.

Correct, N740YX-752YX. All 12 aircraft along with the last 12 aircraft Mesa ultimately received were a part of a larger 175 order Republic placed for United prior to the Bankruptcy. All 24 aircraft, prior to production, were transferred to United during our bankruptcy. Republic said they could only staff 12, so we took the first 12.


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2728203)
And AA owns part of Mesa

And Republic. And Delta owns a part of us as well. So what's your point?

Melit 12-19-2018 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 2728230)
Lol! Get a better product? Stop awarding flying to carriers that can't support it and having 9 carriers all flying under United Express and whipsawing the flying. Take a play out of Delta's playbook and reward the flying to the best carriers, not the cheapest.

At Republic, we are posting amazing numbers (October we were scheduled for 28,482 flights and only canceled 2 the entire month), but we are also an expensive company. We are also already partly owned by United. We could staff these 25 aircraft right this moment with the delivery schedule starting in April, yet we did not get the contract. We tried to acquire TSH and United was the one that ended that. I'm convinced United is happy with being in second place.

Correct, N740YX-752YX. All 12 aircraft along with the last 12 aircraft Mesa ultimately received were a part of a larger 175 order Republic placed for United prior to the Bankruptcy. All 24 aircraft, prior to production, were transferred to United during our bankruptcy. Republic said they could only staff 12, so we took the first 12.

And Republic. And Delta owns a part of us as well. So what's your point?

Read JuniorFO comment and you will see my point

Itsajob 12-19-2018 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Botched (Post 2727848)
Why are people even talking about a merger? Dream on kids.

Exactly. United can still move flying around to the lowest bidder, even with companies that it has an interest in. The biggest thing that changed is that XJT got 25 planes. There will never be, nor need to be a merger. UAL already owns the planes. If they ever wanted them at mainline they would simply bring them over as the current leases expire and hire off of the street and through the various CPP programs to staff them. Being that the company has repeatedly said that mainline cost are too high to operate small jets, they most likely will never be flown by mainline pilots. Not much changed. Express jet will just be getting a different type of plane.

amcnd 12-20-2018 05:02 AM

All it will take is 1-2 years XJT will try to negotiate a new contract with ManaAir/Kair. Then they will se how cheap they are, and how long the process drags out. Then they will realize that they are no better off. Its a shell game just like UA wants it.. the regionals that can staff and attract pilots will thrive. Ones that can’t keep the turn over in a + each month will struggle..

guppie 01-26-2019 05:55 AM

I’m hoping this means first dibs on the JS for United Pilots on XJT.

Riverside 01-26-2019 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 2750234)
I’m hoping this means first dibs on the JS for United Pilots on XJT.

Lol keep dreaming.

threeighteen 01-26-2019 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 2750234)
I’m hoping this means first dibs on the JS for United Pilots on XJT.

Nope, XJT Pilots will have first dibs. Then it will likely go the same as Commutair’s jumpseat policy.

guppie 01-26-2019 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 2750584)
Nope, XJT Pilots will have first dibs. Then it will likely go the same as Commutair’s jumpseat policy.

What is Commutair’s policy?

Check Complete 01-27-2019 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 2750234)
I’m hoping this means first dibs on the JS for United Pilots on XJT.

How many times are UA pilots going to try this before it's realized it's a selfish land grab and fails?

Just a special stupid........

guppie 01-27-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2750811)
How many times are UA pilots going to try this before it's realized it's a selfish land grab and fails?

Just a special stupid........

We’ll see.... I am pretty stupid. I stayed at a regional for 4 full years after college!! That was 4 years too long. 😉

Avrogod 01-27-2019 09:20 AM

Not sure how it works at Commutair or ExpressJet but when DL bought 9E both entities changed their jumpseat policy to where DL pilots go in front of all non 9E pilots on 9E aircraft, but DL also reciprocates that back and 9E goes in front of all non DL on DL aircraft.

gojo 01-27-2019 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Avrogod (Post 2750959)
Not sure how it works at Commutair or ExpressJet but when DL bought 9E both entities changed their jumpseat policy to where DL pilots go in front of all non 9E pilots on 9E aircraft, but DL also reciprocates that back and 9E goes in front of all non DL on DL aircraft.

Not entirely factual. DL and 9E are both S3 priority on 9E aircraft. Therefore it’s by date of hire

rickair7777 01-27-2019 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2750811)
How many times are UA pilots going to try this before it's realized it's a selfish land grab and fails?

Just a special stupid........

Mainline should own the seats in the back, that's what they're paying for. Regionals should own their own JS.

gojo 01-27-2019 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2750971)
Mainline should own the seats in the back, that's what they're paying for. Regionals should own their own JS.

Well maybe, but which regional boards behind mainline on their operated metal?

Avrogod 01-27-2019 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2750961)
Not entirely factual. DL and 9E are both S3 priority on 9E aircraft. Therefore it’s by date of hire

You're talking about nonreving...this discussion was about jumpseat policy.

gojo 01-27-2019 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Avrogod (Post 2751001)
You're talking about nonreving...this discussion was about jumpseat policy.

Ah yes, I skipped over the word “non.” That little word changes everything. You are correct sir


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