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korg128 01-04-2019 08:28 AM

go with the flow. do not go to skw. you will get in put in LGA as a new hire. how does that sound?

if you have the option to flow but as well still apply to other places the choice is simple.

hawk21 01-04-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by korg128 (Post 2736522)
go with the flow. do not go to skw. you will get in put in LGA as a new hire. how does that sound?

if you have the option to flow but as well still apply to other places the choice is simple.


You will also likely end up in LGA at Envoy. However if you take the CRJ at SkyWest you have way more options.

dera 01-04-2019 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by hawk21 (Post 2736617)
You will also likely end up in LGA at Envoy. However if you take the CRJ at SkyWest you have way more options.

"likely"? No you won't.
When was the last time a NH got LGA at Envoy? June?

savedbythevnav 01-04-2019 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by korg128 (Post 2736522)
go with the flow. do not go to skw. you will get in put in LGA as a new hire. how does that sound?

if you have the option to flow but as well still apply to other places the choice is simple.

Depends on aircraft. LGA isn't a CRJ base and 175 guys can get ORD within their first month or two on-line.

But yes, the flow is something to consider. Especially if you're dead set on going to AA.

ChappieSinclair 01-04-2019 12:37 PM

I'm not deadset on AA at all - i'm deadset on a TX base.

I was thinking the 175 was the way to go for DFW.

Check Complete 01-04-2019 02:13 PM

You know AA is always going to have TX operations.

SKW has been in and out of TX half a dozen times and always chases the buck, just depends which way the wind is blowing?

savedbythevnav 01-04-2019 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by ChappieSinclair (Post 2736720)
I'm not deadset on AA at all - i'm deadset on a TX base.

I was thinking the 175 was the way to go for DFW.

You'll get a TX base at either airline, but like Check Complete said, OO has always been in and out of TX. I don't foresee OO leaving any time soon since they just inked the DFW flying a few months ago but anything is possible.

It's also worth comparing Envoy's contract to SkyWest's pay agreement. The little things like reserve rules, duty/trip rigs, incentive pay, 401k match, profit sharing, etc. add up and will make a difference.

ChappieSinclair 01-04-2019 03:47 PM

Is there a place to reliably get that info about both to compare besides their recruiting brochures?

savedbythevnav 01-04-2019 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by ChappieSinclair (Post 2736854)
Is there a place to reliably get that info about both to compare besides their recruiting brochures?

If you can find someone at Envoy to send you a PDF of their CBA and find a copy of SkyWest's Pilot Policy Manual (PPM) to page through, that's the best way to do it.

Hmm...who left this here?;)

amcnd 01-04-2019 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by savedbythevnav (Post 2736862)
If you can find someone at Envoy to send you a PDF of their CBA and find a copy of SkyWest's Pilot Policy Manual (PPM) to page through, that's the best way to do it.

Hmm...who left this here?;)

Better then that ask for trip sheets/ bid packs. My sked at SkyWest has been way better then my Schedule was when i was at Envoy..


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