because your at a mainline already.

Way to add some substance to the conversation

Honest question, what would any of these majors get from giving Skywest a guaranteed interview or career progression program? As of right now none of the majors are having problems getting qualified applicants off the street.
Majors give their wholly owned regional programs like this to attract and retain pilots to those carriers. Endeavor, for example, spent years trying to negotiate their career progression and got the cold shoulder until Delta needed additional RJs and realized they needed something to keep people on property to staff flgihts. In contrast mainline carriers sign contracts with and pays a premium compared to wholly owneds to Skywest to make the day to day operations such as staffing someone else's problem. Mainline has no incentive to do anything to attract or keep pilots on property and it's all on Skywest to figure out how to fulfill their contracts.

Most of what you said is correct. But mainline, as in the “Legacy’s” do/will have an incentive to attract regional pilots to not leave for LCC’s.

One of the LCC’s that was probably considered lowest on the list of attaining pilots from regionals (Sun Country) just got a really good competitive contract. I’d say just about every LCC contract is competitive to the legacy’s. So this will be a problem for UAL/DL/AA in the not too distant future. This is why you see Delta already responding to the future issue by creating a flow with zero requirements essentially.

If each major airline plans on hiring 1000 to 2000 pilots next year, the 20,000 regionals pilots will get wiped out (specifically pilots flying A/C under United Express and Delta Connection) and then what? The legacy’s business model is designed around the regionals existing.

This is why I think we’ll see buyouts eventually. Or OO management will figure out a way to retain pilots (specifically Captains) with pay and promised career progression (DOUBT IT). The problem is they’re not wholly owned, so for now they apparently think they can just ride it out.

I’ll say it again, you’re a FOOL if you don’t have your apps out everywhere as a CA at Skywest. PIC time will not be worth the loss in competitive pay at a major that’s not a legacy. All you need to do is prove you can upgrade and that’s going to make you look very competitive for the next several years. Add another type rating from a competitor major and the legacy’s have more than good reason to hire you so you can satisfy your ego of flying for the beloved brand.

You should be concerned when you have management begging you to upgrade so they can continually under pay their workforce, especially the men and women with the highest responsibilities, which is a disgrace. I just wrote my 4th LOR yesterday for guys in the training department who are trying to dip out now.

The problem with SkyWest is that they serve multiple companies. United for example has said that incentive programs like Aviate will only go to groups that exclusively serve United. If SkyWest segregated pilots into specific legacy networks they might get some sort of program, but that would be an inefficient use of crews and SkyWest won’t go for it. Mesa serves two companies, but their pilots are either flying the CRJ for AA, or the 175 for UA. Only the 175 pilots are allowed in Aviate, and if they bid out of the United network, they are removed from the program. Basically, any program used to attract pilots to SkyWest would also aid the competition. SkyWest is a stable and well run regional. You will probably never get a pathway program under the current model, but it’s still a good place to build experience and become marketable. With the amount of hiring that is predicted, I really don’t know that these programs are as big a carrot as they were when things moved slower.

Anyone else with a 3/1/22 class date heard nothing so far? I've tried reaching out to my recruiter via email and phone but I've had no response with either. Number doesn't even let me leave a voice mail.

Current Class Dates ERJ & CRJ
 

For those with class dates, have any of you guys been called early or bumped up on the list? How far out are the class dates now CRJ and ERJ?
For those that have gone through recently how many people were in your class and how many are making it all the way through? (heard about 80%)

I interviewed back in August and got a class date on the CRJ in March. I got put on the waitlist on December 1st and haven’t heard anything yet. I’m really hoping I get called early. Was hoping to be in class in January.

I can't speak to how far out class dates are, but we started with a class of 30 and ended with 23 (76%), but not all were failures.

1 left prior to the systems test for personal reasons
3 failed the systems test, and 2 retested to >80%
1 left after the systems test for personal reasons
3 didn't get through MV.

They will be sending people to Paris, France for ERJ sim starting January, interesting times…