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Originally Posted by hawk21
(Post 2873427)
Yeah. Pay attention to what Delta and SkyWest release. All 70/76 seat flying is being transferred to Republic out there. It’s not a secret.
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Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2873442)
Even though SkyWest owns 90% of there fleet. They will just conceded to republic all assets at zero cost. Oh and while they are at it they hand over the Koolaid recipe... (or maybe that already leaked. Based off all the malicious posts lately)
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Originally Posted by hawk21
(Post 2873468)
We’re not handing over assets. The flying is simply shifting west for us while YX takes the east coast. We are still at a net gain of airplanes. What are you talking about?
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
(Post 2872535)
Company slowly moving the goalpost:
"it's always been when the aircraft moves under it's own power c'mon guys that's the policy we were just tracking the other two metrics" That is exactly what I was reading from the SAPA sycophants this week. Followed by if we push the issue we lose goodwill with the company. Then ALPA was powerless in this fight for Endeavor and they have the best metrics on latency blah blah blah..... So what you're saying is you can have a powerful representative body protect an employee group, work with management to create effective, executable policy, and end up with high performance everyone can be happy with? Meanwhile our chiefs use soft intimidation and post performance for all to see. Way to go SAPA "pilot reps". Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Cazadores
(Post 2874338)
That is exactly what I was reading from the SAPA sycophants this week. Followed by if we push the issue we lose goodwill with the company.
Then ALPA was powerless in this fight for Endeavor and they have the best metrics on latency blah blah blah..... So what you're saying is you can have a powerful representative body protect an employee group, work with management to create effective, executable policy, and end up with high performance everyone can be happy with? Meanwhile our chiefs use soft intimidation and post performance for all to see. Way to go SAPA "pilot reps". Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Touche Delta, for figuring out a way to (temporarily) gain immunity from union/worker backlash by making it "policy". Enjoy it while it lasts. |
Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
(Post 2874384)
It's one thing to have great performance numbers for Department of Transportation purposes, it's another thing to appreciably short pay to the very employee's who's hard work achieves them. Delta Exes would like nothing more than for us to be disoriented on this issue like we are, so It doesn't suprise me 9E had no traction. They don't push pax numbers through until D-8 , gimme a f'n break. They want marketing block to shrink as much as possible.
Touche Delta, for figuring out a way to (temporarily) gain immunity from union/worker backlash by making it "policy". Enjoy it while it lasts. Doesn't help the Endeavor guys much when we are sitting right next door, big D knowing full and well there is literally nothing we can do or say about it. Exactly, enjoy it while it lasts. Pretty myopic, but that's corporate management at its best. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Cazadores
(Post 2874338)
Then ALPA was powerless in this fight for Endeavor and they have the best metrics on latency blah blah blah.....
If 9E has the best metrics on latency, then that's completely coincidental. |
Originally Posted by ninerdriver
(Post 2874404)
For the record, ALPA wasn't powerless on this. With very few exceptions, when we close the door at 9E, the captain drops the brake. The end.
If 9E has the best metrics on latency, then that's completely coincidental. I'm am confident you guys got a lot further than vague explanations of non existent policies, vailed in weak threats. I wish your MEC would publish something about how they handled this for SkyWest consumption. Might give the "ALPA is a conflict of interest, all they do is take 2%" idiots a kick in the crotch. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Cazadores
(Post 2874417)
I wish your MEC would publish something about how they handled this for SkyWest consumption. Might give the "ALPA is a conflict of interest, all they do is take 2%" idiots a kick in the crotch. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk From a March 15 EDVMEC email: The Grievance Committee had productive Initial Hearings with the Company last week and we are happy to report progress on the grievance we filed pertaining to brake-drop procedures. The Company seemed agreeable to our stance that if the Pilot complied with the timeframes set forth in FOM and did not release the brake before the main cabin door is closed, which is a safety issue, imminent movement is not necessary for a block out time to be generated. We were further informed that Base Management should NOT instruct pilots to delay dropping the brake until movement is imminent. To be clear, the Company may still contact pilots regarding latency and will continue to send ACARS messages to determine the underlying reason for a delay. ALPA supports the company's efforts to gather data to help improve the operation, but we also want to ensure our pilots are paid in accordance with the contract for all of the work we perform. If you are contacted by Base Management and are instructed to delay dropping the brake until pushback is imminent, please file a Pilot Issue Form at www.edvpilotissue.com with as much detail as possible. |
Originally Posted by NotMe
(Post 2874551)
From a March 15 EDVMEC email:
The Grievance Committee had productive Initial Hearings with the Company last week and we are happy to report progress on the grievance we filed pertaining to brake-drop procedures. The Company seemed agreeable to our stance that if the Pilot complied with the timeframes set forth in FOM and did not release the brake before the main cabin door is closed, which is a safety issue, imminent movement is not necessary for a block out time to be generated. We were further informed that Base Management should NOT instruct pilots to delay dropping the brake until movement is imminent. To be clear, the Company may still contact pilots regarding latency and will continue to send ACARS messages to determine the underlying reason for a delay. ALPA supports the company's efforts to gather data to help improve the operation, but we also want to ensure our pilots are paid in accordance with the contract for all of the work we perform. If you are contacted by Base Management and are instructed to delay dropping the brake until pushback is imminent, please file a Pilot Issue Form at www.edvpilotissue.com with as much detail as possible. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk |
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