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Melit 10-16-2019 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2906565)
ALPA wants United pilots to fill out a PDR on pilots from Republic and Skywest who deny a jumpseat. They also want one, including the names of the Crew (if possible) for those who take a United pilot. Those who are denying the jumpseat are few and far between. They are being reported and the company will decide what, if anything, will be done to them. If I was trying to get a job at United, I’d rather have my name on a list of people who they consider accommodating and professional, than one where the opposite is true. It has been made clear that there is no legal issue taking a United pilot. A positive PDR can’t hurt your chances of employment with United. A negative one can’t help.

You are Regurgitating

Gone Flying 10-16-2019 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Hummel75 (Post 2906504)
1. So I see what you're saying here, although the WO is also the only exclusive one to my understanding. So the structure would still be the same.

2. If you reread my post above, I actually agree with you guys here.

If its really only these 2 points, is that enough to pull the Thermonuclear option right away?

when AWAC was AA only, they had the same priority as OO, and i would bet really good money if compass did not have their small ammount of AA flying they too would have the same priority on DL as OO

2 glad you agree, this is a glaring loophole that has i think could be use against OO pilots

no one (important) asked me about the nuclear option. i would have not signed, moved them to OAL status and moved on. if UA implemented 24 hr prior online checkin for OO flights i would have moved them below OAL to protect FCFS at the gate (no online JS checkins for OO jumpseats until we have an agreement)

small edit

amcnd 10-16-2019 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2906565)
ALPA wants United pilots to fill out a PDR on pilots from Republic and Skywest who deny a jumpseat. They also want one, including the names of the Crew (if possible) for those who take a United pilot. Those who are denying the jumpseat are few and far between. They are being reported and the company will decide what, if anything, will be done to them. If I was trying to get a job at United, I’d rather have my name on a list of people who they consider accommodating and professional, than one where the opposite is true. It has been made clear that there is no legal issue taking a United pilot. A positive PDR can’t hurt your chances of employment with United. A negative one can’t help.

How do you police people who go put of there way to try to get denied... if there looking for some data. It could be squeed.. maybe focus on resolution. Instead of repercussion...

Itsajob 10-16-2019 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2906568)
You are Regurgitating

All of these threads are. Back to my book

Itsajob 10-16-2019 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2906572)
How do you police people who go put of there way to try to get denied... if there looking for some data. It could be squeed.. maybe focus on resolution. Instead of repercussion...

Use spellcheck and try again

amcnd 10-16-2019 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2906576)
Use spellcheck and try again

Sorry.... Little kids jumping on me. Should be spending time with them and not on this website!!!

Melit 10-16-2019 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2906575)
All of these threads are. Back to my book

I agree. Good grief

Itsajob 10-16-2019 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2906572)
How do you police people who go put of there way to try to get denied... if there looking for some data. It could be squeed.. maybe focus on resolution. Instead of repercussion...

Yep. I’m glad that I didn’t chase upgrades and was home for all of that. I really doubt that guys are out there trying to get bumped, but every company has their crazies. Not many would try to get bumped and leave thousands of dollars on the table for missing a trip just to try to get a regional guy on a list. If they do, they should be thrown under the same bus as those who are denying jumpseats. I doubt that the data is all that skewed. There will be far more positive reports than negative. As far as resolution vs repercussions, don’t act a fool, and there are no repercussions. If a carrier doesn’t want to sign it doesn’t really matter. United and that carrier are considered OAL until the agreement is signed. This whole long thread would never have happened, except a few radicals decided to go nuts.

Melit 10-16-2019 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2906596)
Yep. I’m glad that I didn’t chase upgrades and was home for all of that. I really doubt that guys are out there trying to get bumped, but every company has their crazies. Not many would try to get bumped and leave thousands of dollars on the table for missing a trip just to try to get a regional guy on a list. If they do, they should be thrown under the same bus as those who are denying jumpseats. I doubt that the data is all that skewed. There will be far more positive reports than negative. As far as resolution vs repercussions, don’t act a fool, and there are no repercussions. If a carrier doesn’t want to sign it doesn’t really matter. United and that carrier are considered OAL until the agreement is signed. This whole long thread would never have happened, except a few radicals decided to go nuts.

What happened to to book ?

Itsajob 10-16-2019 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2906597)
What happened to to book ?

Dozed off after one paragraph and gave up. My old man recliner has that power


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