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Str8 Cash Homie 09-12-2022 02:51 PM

SkyWest TA 2.0
 
Summary:

Effective Sept. 16, 2022 through Dec. 31, 2026

- Simplified to one scale for all aircraft types
- Over 70% scale increase for all SkyWest pilots, with no snap-back
- Average 72% and 82% scale increase for ERJ and CRJ Captains, respectively
- Average 83% scale increase for First Officers
- Top tier 401(k) Program:
• 12% Non-elective (Direct) Company Contribution to 401(k) for pilots with
10+ years of service
• Company match and Direct contribution remain 100% immediately vested
for all pilots on property
- 150/200/300% premium remains through contract term
- No stand-alone ready reserve
- Guaranteed 12 days off per month
- Per Diem increase to $2.15 immediately at signing and $2.25 on Jan. 1, 2024
- EFB & Reflow policies from previous TA removed
- Same day straight swaps
- Captain retention bonus ($20,000) payout remains as scheduled on Oct. 1

Str8 Cash Homie 09-12-2022 02:53 PM

Captain Pay Rates

Year 1: $140.00 – Increase 71.9%
Year 2: $145.18 – Increase 73.8%
Year 3: $149.39 – Increase 74.4%
Year 4: $154.17 – Increase 75.4%
Year 5: $158.95 – Increase 75.5%
Year 6: $163.72 – Increase 75.7%
Year 7: $168.47 – Increase 75.3%
Year 8: $173.18 – Increase 76.0%
Year 9: $177.86 – Increase 75.0%
Year 10: $182.66 – Increase 74.1%
Year 11: $187.41 – Increase 73.8%
Year 12: $192.10 – Increase 72.3%
Year 13: $194.98 – Increase 70.5%
Year 14: $197.90 – Increase 67.8%
Year 15: $200.87 – Increase 65.7%
Year 16: $203.88 – Increase 65.2%
Year 17: $206.94 – Increase 66.3%
Year 18: $210.05 – Increase 67.3%
Year 19: $213.20 – Increase 68.4%
Year 20: $216.00 – Increase 69.2%

Str8 Cash Homie 09-12-2022 02:56 PM

First Officer Pay Rates

Year 1: $90.00 – Increase 92.2%
Year 2: $93.10 – Increase 79.1%
Year 3: $95.20 – Increase 66.6%
Year 4: $97.30 – Increase 65.9%
Year 5: $99.40 – Increase 66.6%
Year 6: $101.50 – Increase 67.3%
Year 7: $103.60 – Increase 68.0%
Year 8: $105.00 – Increase 67.6%

- 750 121 Turbine Time upgrade bid incentive (pay rate $144) REMOVED.

If I was to downgrade back to FO, with my seniority less than 4 years, I could bid Locals for the entire month that pay over 7.5 hours of credit. Which would place me in a position to make 120k a year with 18 days off each month. These new pay rates for FO’s and loss of upgrade incentive for a company in desperate need for Captains foreshadows the next big announcement… FORCED UPGRADES, get ready.

SGU tried to play nice and offer a bone to upgrade, but most FO's just wanted the money now. So be prepared for the end result.

TipTanks 09-12-2022 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie (Post 3493597)

SGU tried to play nice and offer a bone to upgrade, but most FO's just wanted the money now. So be prepared for the end result.


BINGO!

Q: Why is there no captain upgrade incentive?

A: Because upgrading is no longer a choice.

"You will report to Denver on XX/XX/20XX and you will upgrade to captain. If you fail, well, SEE YA!"

threeighteen 09-12-2022 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie (Post 3493597)
SGU tried to play nice and offer a bone to upgrade, but most FO's just wanted the money now. So be prepared for the end result.

So just vote no.... not that difficult.

zycho 09-12-2022 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TipTanks (Post 3493649)
BINGO!

Q: Why is there no captain upgrade incentive?

A: Because upgrading is no longer a choice.

"You will report to Denver on XX/XX/20XX and you will upgrade to captain. If you fail, well, SEE YA!"

That’s from the top down. Not bottom up. As told to me by my CQ instructor.

Str8 Cash Homie 09-12-2022 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3493662)
So just vote no.... not that difficult.

I’m a captain, I’ll be voting yes. This TA encourages downgrades more than upgrades which is ironic but SkyWest has to stay competitive. I’m against forced upgrades for multiple reasons, but I won’t lose any sleep over it.

I’ve been out flying the line these last few weeks. The feedback I’ve received from the FO’s I’ve had the pleasure to work with have been complaints surrounding pay rates only. Nothing about how excited they are to make $144 per hour as SIC (oh, you have to place your upgrade bid in as “any”, such a tragedy). Not a word about better QOL. You don’t have QOL issues in the right seat after about a year seniority, so I don’t knock them for not giving af.

The lack of motivation with the upcoming generation of pilots just a few years younger than me is real. Some won’t have to prove they can even hold the responsibility of PIC. That’s because not some, but all mainline hiring departments are under the illusion that any past leadership position holds the same value as being in command of an aircraft operating under part 121. I’ve held multiple volunteer “leadership” positions and it’s a night and day comparison to the leadership position of being an Airline Captain. But hey, I don’t write the rules.

If they start forcing upgrades, which I believe they will, it is what it is. SGU attempted to play nice.

threeighteen 09-12-2022 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie (Post 3493669)
I’m a captain, I’ll be voting yes. This TA encourages downgrades more than upgrades which is ironic but SkyWest has to stay competitive. I’m against forced upgrades for multiple reasons, but I won’t lose any sleep over it.

I’ve been out flying the line these last few weeks. The feedback I’ve received from the FO’s I’ve had the pleasure to work with have been complaints surrounding pay rates only. Nothing about how excited they are to make $144 per hour as SIC (oh, you have to place your upgrade bid in as “any”, such a tragedy). Not a word about better QOL. You don’t have QOL issues in the right seat after about a year seniority, so I don’t knock them for not giving af.

The lack of motivation with the upcoming generation of pilots just a few years younger than me is real. Some won’t have to prove they can even hold the responsibility of PIC. That’s because not some, but all mainline hiring departments are under the illusion that any past leadership position holds the same value as being in command of an aircraft operating under part 121. I’ve held multiple volunteer “leadership” positions and it’s a night and day comparison to the leadership position I hold now. But hey, I don’t write the rules.

If they start forcing upgrades, which I believe they will, it is what it is. SGU attempted to play nice.

How will anyone downgrade if upgrades are forced?

You just explained how important leadership is and then you said you're going to vote yes... I guess your leadership style is "do what I say, not what I do"?

Why not be a real leader and vote no when it really counts?

Str8 Cash Homie 09-12-2022 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3493688)
How will anyone downgrade if upgrades are forced?

You just explained how important leadership is and then you said you're going to vote yes... I guess your leadership style is "do what I say, not what I do"?

Why not be a real leader and vote no when it really counts?

WTH are you talking about? “Good leadership” would be voting “no” for what reason? Just because? That’s a very unfair accusation you just posted.

TA 2.0 does not have any language referencing forced upgrades. I’m only speculating forced upgrades are a likely path. This contract benefits waiting to upgrade, which is why I said it “encourages” downgrades. That’s not claiming anyone will be allowed to downgrade, unless some unfortunate circumstances arise.

They removed the EFB reflow policy. That’s why I was originally a hard “no” vote. How does my “yes” vote equate to “do what I say, not what I do”? I’m not telling anyone how to vote.

tjcabq 09-12-2022 04:54 PM

Wait 10 years for the 401k, what a joke.


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