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fastback 02-18-2016 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2070674)
ALPA and regionals....amazing how many meatheads still think that pairing is a good idea. Scary how zombified people have become..

Subtle...smart

Apokleros 02-18-2016 04:44 PM

What is pairing?

ConfigFlaps 02-18-2016 08:43 PM

pair·ing
ˈperiNG/
noun
an arrangement or match resulting from organizing or forming people or things into pairs.
"the dancers made a fine pairing"
the action of pairing things or people.
"the pairing of food and wine"

Apokleros 02-18-2016 08:45 PM

Seriously? But what is being paired, and for what purpose?

ConfigFlaps 02-18-2016 11:23 PM

can't tell whether you're serious or not. A pairing (or "trip") is a string of flights anywhere from 1-4 days in length. Called a pairing because most of the time you're paired with the same crew for the length of the trip.

turboflyin 02-19-2016 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2070394)
And that since our seniority is really all we have in this industry, it should be respected above all else.

And Skywest has been ignoring that as well. PBS ignores it when it needs to fill minimum line values each month. The other problem that many are having, is transitioning to the 175. The company is refusing transition awards to CRJ pilots because of "company needs", but is still filling new hire 175 classes. So new hires are getting the higher paid airplane with the better schedules, and when a guy/gal on property asks to transition, they get told no. The company doesn't give a **** about seniority.

Rak73 02-19-2016 07:33 AM

I need some feedback. I have interviews at Sky West, Mesa, Express Jet, Compass and Republic. I need info from you line pilots on Sky West as a place to work, jr bases (looking for Houston)upgrade times, any info would help me make a decision.

Thanks

WesternSkies 02-19-2016 07:47 AM

Houston? Mesa.
Drive to work.

JB22 02-19-2016 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Rak73 (Post 2071572)
I need some feedback. I have interviews at Sky West, Mesa, Express Jet, Compass and Republic. I need info from you line pilots on Sky West as a place to work, jr bases (looking for Houston)upgrade times, any info would help me make a decision.

Thanks

IAH at Skywest is nearing its end.

Is offline 02-19-2016 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by JB22 (Post 2071620)
IAH at Skywest is nearing its end.

Please wise one, inform us all....

Cruz5350 02-19-2016 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2071631)
Please wise one, inform us all....

All of the Mexico flying in IAH is transitioning to Mesaon the 175 and one or two routes back to mainline... Not a good sign for IAH.

JB22 02-19-2016 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2071631)
Please wise one, inform us all....

Plus the agreement for guaranteed interviews at UA for express jet pilots is good for that alpa carrier

disillusioned 02-19-2016 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by JB22 (Post 2071637)
Plus the agreement for guaranteed interviews at UA for express jet pilots is good for that alpa carrier

Unions are bad!!! We have a unique partnership with management where we don't need a union to protect us from BS attendance memos or flying 90 hours per month.

Plus that will never happen at SW. We fly for too many partners to setup a flow to one specific airline. I heard awhile back that we were close to getting a flow setup with United. I guess they decided that it was better to setup for XJT.

Is offline 02-19-2016 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 2071632)
All of the Mexico flying in IAH is transitioning to Mesaon the 175 and one or two routes back to mainline... Not a good sign for IAH.

You do realize that IAH was bigger than it currently is before we ever started doing the Mexico flying? Half of the Houston flying is now done by crews flowing through. We will know in May, but anything before that is nothing but speculation.

Is offline 02-19-2016 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 2071746)
No joke. IAH is a pretty small base, most of the flying was done by other domiciles. They'd likely feel the hit harder than anyone in IAH. Well, that, and UA puts anything from 200's to 757-300's on some routes and who knows what the future holds.

I do think that the 18 UA 175's, DL 175's (that will replace CPZ on the West Coast), and the movement of 700's to the AA operation in LA will see more flying shifted west. However, that doesn't mean IAH will vanish, might be harder to get for a newb. Likely not closed.

Rumor has it that the 175's for delta were going to DTW. They already have 15 mechanics based up there.

Nevets 02-19-2016 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by WhistleBlwr (Post 2070437)
So what's up with these intimidation emails about reliability?

Pack our schedules, don't let us drop trips then wonder why people call in?

Do any other places have these tactics or is this more "industry leading" from the "employer of choice"?





"Our reliability tracking system has identified you as having 5 or more absences within the last 12 months. Please review SP 3006.3 (Pilot Reliability Program) and construct a plan to prevent unnecessary absences. Our airline’s reliability and performance are reliant on a safe, healthy, and reliable work force.

If you are in need of assistance, please contact with your Chief Pilot. Often, Employee Assistant Programs (EAP), medical leaves (FMLA) or personal LOA’s are available to accommodate people in need. To apply for a Leave of Absence, go to: SWOL>My Stuff > Leave of Absence > New LOA Request Form.



Sincerely,



**Chief Administration Office**"


At LXJT, we can call in unlimited if you bring a doctor's note on your next trip. Otherwise, we get a written warning on the 5th occurrence within the last twelve months. But it's nothing like this memo.

nopantsILS 02-19-2016 02:18 PM

When non-rev on DL will they upgrade coach passengers (cabin oversold by two) or board non rev into open business seats (just enough to squeak on, but not if the oversold pax get bumped up)? It's an international flight.

Westernflyer 02-19-2016 02:21 PM

Ugh. Another month, and this time I kept my bids pretty simple - only trying to get a certain 3 days off for a function I wanted to attend. I didn't complicate things by adding other parameters I JUST wanted those three days - Only to have a CN standup added in right over them. :mad: I don't know why I bother.

disillusioned 02-19-2016 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by nopantsILS (Post 2071800)
When non-rev on DL will they upgrade coach passengers (cabin oversold by two) or board non rev into open business seats (just enough to squeak on, but not if the oversold pax get bumped up)? It's an international flight.

My experience is that they will put non-revs into the open FC on international flights. Domestic they will usually upgrade the frequent flyers to FC, but international you can usually get the seats up front. Makes the flight way better and is almost like a vacation in itself.

nopantsILS 02-19-2016 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2071812)
My experience is that they will put non-revs into the open FC on international flights. Domestic they will usually upgrade the frequent flyers to FC, but international you can usually get the seats up front. Makes the flight way better and is almost like a vacation in itself.

Thanks for the reply! There's multiple options to get out, basically just trying to get first! However, this flight gets me home about 10 hours earlier and has better #'s for the domestic connection. It's oversold by two in the back but 7 open up front and we are number 5,6 on the list.

Majerus 02-19-2016 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2071752)
Rumor has it that the 175's for delta were going to DTW. They already have 15 mechanics based up there.

Come on man, Chip and Mike have both said publicly that these planes were won on a bid to do west coast flying.

TogaParty 02-19-2016 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 2071746)
No joke. IAH is a pretty small base, most of the flying was done by other domiciles. They'd likely feel the hit harder than anyone in IAH. Well, that, and UA puts anything from 200's to 757-300's on some routes and who knows what the future holds.

I do think that the 18 UA 175's, DL 175's (that will replace CPZ on the West Coast), and the movement of 700's to the AA operation in LA will see more flying shifted west. However, that doesn't mean IAH will vanish, might be harder to get for a newb. Likely not closed.

According to the delivery schedule on the earnings report, there are 25 UA 175s yet to be delivered for a total of 65 in the UA system. Haven't seen any announcement of these additional 7 on top of the previously announced 18 however.

Paid2fly 02-19-2016 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by JB22 (Post 2071620)
IAH at Skywest is nearing its end.










Didn't you go to CompASS?:rolleyes:

rcfd13 02-21-2016 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Westernflyer (Post 2071804)
Ugh. Another month, and this time I kept my bids pretty simple - only trying to get a certain 3 days off for a function I wanted to attend. I didn't complicate things by adding other parameters I JUST wanted those three days - Only to have a CN standup added in right over them. :mad: I don't know why I bother.

Probably because half of the pilots at the company requested the days off for WAI. If you're not senior you'd need to get creative to hold those 3 days off.

Luv2Rotate 02-21-2016 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by rcfd13 (Post 2072673)
Probably because half of the pilots at the company requested the days off for WAI. If you're not senior you'd need to get creative to hold those 3 days off.

Hey, use a "platinum day" then pick up a stand up or during your 2-3 day off segment wait for premium time to pop up :)

24Whiskey 02-21-2016 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2071576)
Houston? Mesa.
Drive to work.

I second this. Granted I'm outside looking in (don't work for any of the IAH based carriers) but out of the 3 regionals it seems like Mesa is the better bet if your #1 priority is having a IAH base. This is coming from a friend's experience of being based in IAH for Skywest.

...just my 2 cents.

Is offline 02-21-2016 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by 24Whiskey (Post 2072816)
I second this. Granted I'm outside looking in (don't work for any of the IAH based carriers) but out of the 3 regionals it seems like Mesa is the better bet if your #1 priority is having a IAH base. This is coming from a friend's experience of being based in IAH for Skywest.

...just my 2 cents.

Yet every Mesa pilot I talk to has nothing good to say about the company.

24Whiskey 02-21-2016 04:03 PM

Hence why I said "if your number one priority is being IAH based."

In any other metric (outside of quick-ish upgrade) Skywest and ExpressJet beat Mesa to a pulp.

WhoCares 02-22-2016 06:41 PM

SkyWest thread shouldn't be on the second page.





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mobius27 02-22-2016 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by WhoCares (Post 2073624)
SkyWest thread shouldn't be on the second page.





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I agree.

So who's got rumors? Sounds like mx hangar in msp is definitely happening, not until the fall though. Then again I'm the only person here who cares what happens in msp.

MoovenUP 02-22-2016 08:20 PM

MSP will soon be all 7/9 and 175. Skywest is buying endeavor, why else would we get their hanger and expand Cree room into theirs? We are getting 190s for Alaska. And my favorite rumor is.... MSP will be properly staffed and do all its own flying!!!!

rickair7777 02-23-2016 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by mobius27 (Post 2073627)
I agree.

So who's got rumors? Sounds like mx hangar in msp is definitely happening, not until the fall though. Then again I'm the only person here who cares what happens in msp.


MX base does not necessarily mean wonderful things. All you need is a relative handful of crew to fly trips built around getting planes to/from MX (start early, end late).

elmetal 02-23-2016 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2073813)
MX base does not necessarily mean wonderful things. All you need is a relative handful of crew to fly trips built around getting planes to/from MX (start early, end late).

Like cos for example. Mx base around Denver (which is 200 crews) yet cos gets by with 35-40

CloudShredder 02-23-2016 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2073816)
Like cos for example. Mx base around Denver (which is 200 crews) yet cos gets by with 35-40

I heard the whole point of the COS MX base was because it was cheaper as far as taxes etc. than DEN. COS really just fills the gaps in the system. We mostly do early starts and late ends, but we do have some mid day shows and releases sprinkled into the mix. COS base does LAX, IAH, DEN, SLC, and ORD flying mainly. The difference between COS and MSP, is that if MSP were an MX base its still a hub which means all flights would leave early from outstations, arrive in MSP then go out. At the end of the night MSP flights would go to an outstation. This makes for more normal report and release times in a hub. Since COS isn't a hub it's like an outstation with early departures and late arrivals. COS does see a fair amount of midday traffic. Crews from other bases regularly overnight in COS and fly through COS.

amcnd 02-23-2016 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2073813)
MX base does not necessarily mean wonderful things. All you need is a relative handful of crew to fly trips built around getting planes to/from MX (start early, end late).

Maybe a MX (outstation) but not at a "Hub"... SLC for example...

FlyinRabbit88 02-23-2016 11:13 AM

Don't forget my personal fav rumor. JetBlue will move the E190 to Skywest including the remaining on order as JetBlue adds more A321s and A330.


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