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303flyboy 09-17-2012 03:27 PM

One list SkyWest Inc.
 
Yes / No ? And why ?

Let's hear it..

Personally, I believe it would make more sense to have one list down the road. With base / eqpt fences for both sides of the house first 5 years ..

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ShyGuy 09-17-2012 03:47 PM

Bwahahahahahaaa! Good luck with that.

Just some advice, from having gone through a one list at the regional level.......

1. Don't agree to binding arbitration. Either your groups agree together or you two remain separate. PERIOD.

2. Go with DOH with a operational fence to prevent movement across certificates right away. Maybe a 2-3 year fence allowing only movement within the same airline.

3. DO NOT elect old lifers on your seniority integration team. You'd be surprised just how quickly your airline pilot group would be sold out to protect the most senior.

4. Don't agree to binding arbitration. No good comes out of letting a geriatric lawyer decide your fate.

5. See tips #1-#4 above.

Al Czervik 09-17-2012 03:50 PM

I only see this happening if there is no union.

303flyboy 09-17-2012 03:52 PM

I only see this happening if we have one, Inc, in house (no ALPA) union...

rickair7777 09-17-2012 04:32 PM

Five year fences at least. SKW is somewhat junior to other two, so the fences are not going to be optional. But they should have no problem with that unless they want "all your base are belong to us".

If SKW pilots elect ALPA, there will be an automatic forced integration.

Other than that, it would require consensus all around, including SGU. Actually in theoretical world, SGU and ALPA could come to agreement and force it on the SKW pilot group but that's not really going to happen.

303flyboy 09-17-2012 04:35 PM

SGU doesn't want one list.

cosmosdrvr 09-17-2012 04:42 PM

NO!

I applied to, interviewed with, and accepted a job at Skywest. Had I wanted to fly for ASA I would have gone there.

Seperate and equal is just fine.

rickair7777 09-17-2012 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by cosmosdrvr (Post 1262583)
NO!

I applied to, interviewed with, and accepted a job at Skywest. Had I wanted to fly for ASA I would have gone there.

Seperate and equal is just fine.


But that's the problem...separate does not guarantee equal.

I think we should do one list with fences to protect current reasonable career expectations (such as they are). One list will protect us from possible future whipsaw.

ExperimentalAB 09-17-2012 04:56 PM

...not just possible whipsaw. It will happen!

ASAnotASAP 09-17-2012 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by cosmosdrvr (Post 1262583)
NO!

I applied to, interviewed with, and accepted a job at Skywest. Had I wanted to fly for ASA I would have gone there.

Seperate and equal is just fine.


Separate and equal! Heh, what an idiot!

Tell that to the ASA pilots who were forced to move from SLC. Tell that to the XJT pilots who were forced out of IAH. Tell that to the SKYW pilots who had to move from ORD... Oh wait...


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