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Mildred Pierce 06-18-2013 12:48 PM

Did SkyWest not give you a job back in the day or something? Or did Jerry steal your high school girlfriend? I think we all want major airlines to do as much of their own flying as possible, but I just don't understand why you so badly want SkyWest, specifically, to fail.[/QUOTE]

This! I have noticed he never posts these same type of rants towards Republic or a few others that are far more deserving of scorn.

LarryDavid 06-18-2013 02:06 PM

This is probably the nail in the coffin for Bombardier unless that C-Series gets going. The 200 is a pure garbage airplane and every knows it. The 700/900 are ok but 175s are a much nicer product. Having to gate check bags gets very old. I forsee lots of flights to Victorville in SkyWests future.

TallFlyer 06-18-2013 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by LarryDavid (Post 1430380)
This is probably the nail in the coffin for Bombardier unless that C-Series gets going. The 200 is a pure garbage airplane and every knows it. The 700/900 are ok but 175s are a much nicer product. Having to gate check bags gets very old. I forsee lots of flights to Victorville in SkyWests future.

Well, given the size of the C Series I hope they're never a SKW.

Paid2fly 06-18-2013 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1430394)
Well, given the size of the C Series I hope they're never a SKW.









Apparently they didn't offer you the job?:rolleyes:

gloopy 06-19-2013 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by Surprise (Post 1430332)
I'm just wondering if there isn't some back story here. It really does seem that every time SkyWest is in the news you're right here with this same line about Jerry's ego and that our company is doomed to the same fate as ACA. What leads you to believe that SkyWest wants to sell its own tickets again?

Meanwhile, there is another regional airline called Republic that is helmed by somebody who probably is a Howard Hughes wanna be (not that there's anything wrong with that), and they don't seem to garner the same level of hatred. Republic, after all, actually did buy two "mainline" carriers and even, in a way, operates Airbuses today.

Did SkyWest not give you a job back in the day or something? Or did Jerry steal your high school girlfriend? I think we all want major airlines to do as much of their own flying as possible, but I just don't understand why you so badly want SkyWest, specifically, to fail.

Never desired to work for SKyWest. Ever. That said, they used to be one of the better run regionals. I guess that's still true, although its hard to tell when they own almost every other regional (slight exaggeration).

And "Howard Hughes wanna be" may be an insult but its at least a thinly veiled insult. HH was at least cool to some degree. I don't know of anyone that says BB is cool. Many do say he reminds them of a cucumber, however. YMMV.

I think SKYW is a much bigger threat to go IndyAir II not only due to JA's ego, but also by the time they go live they'll be sitting on the better part of a billion in cash from the no talent legacy FFD gravy train. They will have far more "marketshare" wrapped up in staggered contracts that will force legacy airlines to fund their "core business" while they flail around playing Airport Tycoon with 120 seat E2's or whatever they end up playing with. RAH has a lot of similarities, but SKYW is simply way bigger in scale and will be a much more damaging competitor. They will bleed legacy airlines many billions before they whiz through their one.

They will fail, but they will hurt the legacy airlines far more than RAH before they do.

TallFlyer 06-19-2013 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1430597)
Apparently they didn't offer you the job?:rolleyes:

Well, the smallest C Series variant is 110 seats. Do you want to see that at a regional?

XJT Pilot 06-19-2013 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1430623)
Never desired to work for SKyWest. Ever. That said, they used to be one of the better run regionals. I guess that's still true, although its hard to tell when they own almost every other regional (slight exaggeration).

And "Howard Hughes wanna be" may be an insult but its at least a thinly veiled insult. HH was at least cool to some degree. I don't know of anyone that says BB is cool. Many do say he reminds them of a cucumber, however. YMMV.

I think SKYW is a much bigger threat to go IndyAir II not only due to JA's ego, but also by the time they go live they'll be sitting on the better part of a billion in cash from the no talent legacy FFD gravy train. They will have far more "marketshare" wrapped up in staggered contracts that will force legacy airlines to fund their "core business" while they flail around playing Airport Tycoon with 120 seat E2's or whatever they end up playing with. RAH has a lot of similarities, but SKYW is simply way bigger in scale and will be a much more damaging competitor. They will bleed legacy airlines many billions before they whiz through their one.

They will fail, but they will hurt the legacy airlines far more than RAH before they do.

You absolutely know nothing about how businesses make money. Stay with flying the plane and collecting a pay check its your only hope in feeding your family.

gloopy 06-19-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by XJT Pilot (Post 1430630)
You absolutely know nothing about how businesses make money. Stay with flying the plane and collecting a pay check its your only hope in feeding your family.

Yeah my bad. ACA totally almost made it. Ditto for Expressjet. And RAH is dominating the domestic scene right now with mad profits on their branded flying. And don't forget, Comair *almost* bought Spirit. Or was it TWA? Your seniority list will seamlessly transfer to 120 seat jets and then an awesome magical widebody order one day. All the legacy flying are belong to Skywest.

cosmosdrvr 06-19-2013 01:28 PM

Just another self righteous DL troll.

Management giving to much of your flying away. It is yours after all. Right? Not to be flown for profit as designated by Delta. I wish we could all be as wise as you.

Its ok gloopy you still can be a p&@%@k on the hotel shuttle.

By the way I was at ACA until the last day. Zero chance SKW tries that. We are making way to much off of our partners.

gloopy 06-19-2013 03:13 PM

They are, but things are about to change. They have a very significant cost reset coming up from DL, and the legacy airlines they feed off of are already getting concerned about their marketshare and pricing clout. Fortunately for the managers at legacy airlines, they can simply create a zero longevity phantom airline or three out of dust and rapidly transfer lift to them. SKYW is in a shrinking sector over all, but is fairly well positioned to take advantage of one final growth spurt as AA/UAL rationalize their feed with their peers. Then that's it. The only sources of not only growth but preserving what they have at that point will be the scopeless airlines like AS and JB or going IndyAir. They will try it one day. And they will not succeed. But they will probably bleed many billions from the legacy airlines before they bleed out their one.

SkyW will try and transfer more mainline legacy flying to their shiny new barbie jets regardless of the jobs lost or the negative pressure on existing labor. They would love to get the 100-120 seaters at their "regional". I wish them nothing but the worst if and when they attempt to do that.


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