Wa Wa Wa. Its all the regionals fault.. ..............Whiner

Your career is more important than mine..........Nope


You fly a real airliner, I fly a Barbie jet................Ego

SkyWest is a sinking ship. ................................That makes money for the shareholders, and has never furloughed.

Mainline is taking the flying back........................Nope, more profitable the way it is now. Thanks for the input though.

We will be just fine. I give you a ride home one day in my Delta Connection Airbus

 

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Originally Posted by gloopy

Never desired to work for SkyWest. Ever. That said, they used to be one of the better run regionals. I guess that's still true, although its hard to tell when they own almost every other regional (slight exaggeration).

Every time you make a statement about SkyWest becoming the next IndyAir you show your ignorance.

SkyWest Inc. (Jerry as you say) will NEVER go “Stand Alone” in direct competition with our FFD partners. They understand they’re niche better than anyone else, that’s why they never made a move on Midwest or Frontier when they had the chance. The kind of at-risk flying SkyWest is pursuing and will always pursue is a true codeshare with our mainline partners. And our mainline partners love SkyWest willingness and ability to partner up and share more of the risk. This approach actually saves our partners millions, limits their losses and provides more efficient feed from a mainline standpoint. This is evident since our partnerships are increasing as well as our codeshare at-risk flying. BTW, SkyWest Airlines has been very profitable in doing so.

You also speak of Jerry’s ego but unlike Bryan “The Rev” Bedford who’s ego lead him to not only purchase Frontier and Midwest (shady to say the least) but also appear on TV in “Undercover Boss” and who addresses his minions frequently using biblical quotes. Jerry has never done any of the above and has never put himself out there. Yes he’s purchased a couple regionals and has done very well running them but he’s truly a very quiet / non-flashy guy. Other airlines have done the same but left carnage in their wake. i.e. Pinnacle (Mesaba and Colgan), RAH (Frontier, Midwest, Lynx, Mokulele) and Mesa (Freedom and Air Midwest) plus many more. Oh and Jerry’s a damn saint compared to Ornstein who’s a convicted business criminal, started Freedom A and shut them down along with Air Midwest. I won’t even get into his hotel or the Hawaiian:Aloha:Go! Debacles. Then there’s Hulas and GoJet. The list goes on and on but you say Jerry’s the one with the HH ego…………… amazing.

You, more than anyone else I have ever come across, have absolutely no clue how this industry works or how SkyWest Inc’s (Jerry and friends) positioning themselves for the future. Do yourself a favor and exit stage left.

 

And as they say.. "Boom, goes the dynamite"

 

Easy my friend. Delta, AA and UA will never farm out Airbuses or Airbus type aircraft. The regionals have a higher CASM than mainline which is why Delta’s decreased their feed by around 40% over the last 5 years and UA’s new contract cuts their feed by 25%ish.

 

I know. Just bustin troll chops.

 

I figured as much. My sarcasm radar's a little rusty these days. lol

 

I believe you believe that. Comair almost bought Spirit too, and ACA totally coulda been a contender.

The industry is cyclical enough, but you are in an extremely vulnerable sector now. If your career trajectory maps out DCI Airbuses, I suggest you work on your alternate.

 

Not going anywhere. Thanks though.

FWIW I agree with your JA vs BB/JO comparison. I still think SKYW will go IndyAir, probably in the next 5-7 years, maybe less, but we'll see. Be it from ego or their hand being forced, it will happen because it has to happen. When the lines of a shrinking sector and never ending low bid contracts meet and they're out of regionals to buy and more zero longevity ones are popping up (and the ones remaining are agressively dealing their managements an ace to win the next RFP...for existing flying) SKYW will be faced with shrinking into higher costs or doing something bold. I predict they will do something bold. And they will do so thinking they have the same "Midas touch" in the real airline world that they've had in the fake RFP ACMI provider world.

After this AA/US large RJ growth spurt plays out, there's nothing left and the sector will still be shrinking. The only way out is significant scope relief for ever larger planes (don't count on it) or infesting the scopeless airlines (AS/JB/VX/etc) with them but even that is opportunity limited even if it does come to fruition. Hopefully we can all agree that it doesn't come to that anyway.

 

You mean Leviticus 26:29?

Genesis 19:8?

Bible quotes can be pretty hard on the Children.

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Jerry Atkin is IMHO one of the smartest guys in the business and motivated. I think SkyWest will do very well.

 

That's some pretty weak dynamite then. And I agreed with his juxtaposition WRT BB and JO anyway, which had the most potential energy in his post in the first place.