MtnGrl

Where would you go if given the choice?

BeatNavy

Have you read the horizon threads lately? I think you should go to horizon.

Turbosina

Where do you live? If you live in a SKW base, I'd go with SKW. If you live in a Horizon base, I'd go Horizon.

If you live in SEA or PDX, which are bases for both airlines, well...that's a tougher question. Horizon's product is second to none, and you'll be flying across some of the most beautiful parts of this country. On the downside, Horizon only has the Q400 (if jets matter to you), and it seems that for whatever reason, Skywest is growing while Horizon's future is less secure.

I was faced with the same choice, but living where I do, Horizon isn't an option, as I refuse to commute to a base.

It all really boils down to where you live. Not even the best days on the line can make up for the pain of commuting.

Phteven

If you do five minutes of research, the decision will be clear.

Read my write up about the state of things at Horizon.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...rizon-air.html

snackysmores

Anyone who is considering going to Horizon right now must be living under a rock.

Phteven

You know what, MtnGrl I don't want to give you too hard of a time because you are at least seeking information. Right now, to my knowledge, we are continuing to staff our classes at Horizon which is absolutely astounding given the current situation. I have to assume they are coming here with ZERO information or they're naive.

snackysmores

I thought Oct and Nov classes were cancelled due to no Alaska attrition for the rest of this year.

Phteven

Yeah that's what I heard too. We must have a lot in the pool at Alaska given the rate we have been hiring. Unfortunate timing on this too because I have to assume this would shake the confidence of a lot of people on the fence about whether to go to Horizon, Compass, or Skywest and it would have been nice to see that reflected in the turnout for class.

N927EV

BK or McDonald's for lunch, guys?

snackysmores

Not even, Skywest pilots aren't on the verge of being whipsawed or threatened by their company into taking concessions. If the company's proposal in mid October is even remotely similar to the Flight Attendants (which was so bad the union wouldn't even consider it for a vote) our fate is pretty much sealed.

No one should even consider applying at Horizon until after Dec. 31st when our proposal is supposed to be voted on.

And for the potential new hires, if you didn't catch if in the other threads: You are screwed if you come here: If we take concessions and get 30 jets at Horizon, you will never be senior enough to fly them. You will be stuck in the Q400 which will only be operated on the short 30-40 minute flights, doing six legs a day. You will sit on the ground more than you fly, and you will be pushed to legal duty limit Every. Single. Day you fly with the bare minimum amount of rest in one of our ****ty overnight locations on the far edge of town with no food or amenities near by. If the company gets rid of our trip rigs too there goes your pay protection on the Q400.

If we refuse to take concessions and jets are given to Skywest, Horizon will shrink roughly 40% and you will get furloughed, or forever remain at the bottom of the seniority list.

No matter what happens with the contract/jets: You will lose.

Once again, do not come here right now. Horizon used to be a great company until the ****ing bean counters at Alaska took over and are willing to spend $5 to save $1 just to spite our "overpaid" pilot group. How many BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS does Alaska need to make before enough is enough? They are swimming in an ocean of cash right now they have no idea what to do with all their money...I know! Lets spend $41 million ****ing dollars to put our name on a sports stadium, but **** those Horizon pilots, they need to give up their contract.

If you want to be based in SEA or PDX, go to Skywest or Compass.