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captkirk3000 07-25-2017 05:05 AM
Originally Posted by bitatasg (Post 2399458)
3 of the 4 Tuesday's in September and 4 of the 5 in October would be a pretty strong guess.

Thanks, looking forward to the concrete date!

PropPiedmont 07-25-2017 06:59 AM
Originally Posted by NorskAir (Post 2399240)
Latest hiring projection from the training center is 915 for the year, they have added an additional class for Sept through Dec.
Wow! 421 more new hires in the next 5 months. That's 85ish per month or a new hire class starting every week, minus the holiday weeks, through years end. Hope that means the upgrade numbers are increasing too.

SkyNation 07-25-2017 07:59 AM
what percentage do they run reserves at? Like 15%?

TexasFlight 07-25-2017 08:16 AM
According to SWAPA they are running 24 upgrades per month, which isnt much but it does provide a trickle of movement. It will be interesting to see what upgrade time starts to look like in the next 3-5 years as the folks pushed down by the Airtran merger get their number called. As for Reserves, contractually its 8% of total lines with RSV lines being awarded along with hard lines on the 9th of every month.

WHACKMASTER 07-25-2017 09:29 PM
Originally Posted by TexasFlight (Post 2399533)
According to SWAPA they are running 24 upgrades per month, which isnt much but it does provide a trickle of movement. It will be interesting to see what upgrade time starts to look like in the next 3-5 years as the folks pushed down by the Airtran merger get their number called. As for Reserves, contractually its 8% of total lines with RSV lines being awarded along with hard lines on the 9th of every month.
"Pushed down from the AirTran merger"? When you have zero deliveries and growth scheduled, gain an average of 8% relative seniority by the "merger", "capture" ALL of our cptn seats, how can you claim to be "pushed down"?!

Let's keep the facts straight. GMAFB!!!!

itsmytime 07-26-2017 03:48 AM
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2399776)
"Pushed down from the AirTran merger"? When you have zero deliveries and growth scheduled, gain an average of 8% relative seniority by the "merger", "capture" ALL of our cptn seats, how can you claim to be "pushed down"?!

Let's keep the facts straight. GMAFB!!!!
I thought it was the AirTran guys he was referring to. LOL!

TexasFlight 07-26-2017 06:32 AM
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2399776)
"Pushed down from the AirTran merger"? When you have zero deliveries and growth scheduled, gain an average of 8% relative seniority by the "merger", "capture" ALL of our cptn seats, how can you claim to be "pushed down"?!

Let's keep the facts straight. GMAFB!!!!
I'm still an FNG so it was more anecdotal on my part than anything. While I wasn't trying to place blame on either "group" my buddies whom were hired by SWA and reside in the 90K range all cite that one event(merger) as the cause of their 12-14 year upgrade.

My hope is lessons were learned from that experience.

Indyjetav8er 07-26-2017 06:40 AM
Based on the growth numbers they are staying at the interviews. Some one starting today could be at 50% in 10 years.


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MudhammedCJ 07-26-2017 07:56 AM
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2399776)
"Pushed down from the AirTran merger"? When you have zero deliveries and growth scheduled, gain an average of 8% relative seniority by the "merger", "capture" ALL of our cptn seats, how can you claim to be "pushed down"?!

Let's keep the facts straight. GMAFB!!!!
Why don't you go send a few cases of wine to your girl Claire. Without her you likely wouldn't even be on the bottom.

ZapBrannigan 07-26-2017 08:31 AM
Class dates
 
Originally Posted by Indyjetav8er (Post 2399857)
Based on the growth numbers they are staying at the interviews. Some one starting today could be at 50% in 10 years.

Wait... let me stop laughing for a second and share with you some of the things I've been told during interviews, indocs, etc over the last 20 years or so.

- You're all going to be captains in 5 years
- We had to hire the best of the best because the upgrade time is so quick
- This is the last uniform that you will ever wear
- You just won the lottery
- Airlines don't furlough to profitability

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