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rickair7777 06-05-2018 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by fenix1 (Post 2608730)
Thanks a lot and I appreciate it. Biggest draw to Horizon is that it’s the only western wholly-owned regional, but the flying also sounds really challenging (plenty of weather and unique approaches).

In this context "wholly-owned" is not a plus. In fact, it's probably a minus.

Swingline78 06-06-2018 11:51 AM

There was a horizon guy in my class. To my knowledge where you come from isn't nearly as important as the qualifications you have. In other words pic pic pic

fenix1 06-06-2018 10:37 PM

Interesting perspective - thank you - but can you please explain & elaborate further? Please note that I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but instead I’m genuinely interested in better understanding where you’re coming from here!


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2608956)
In this context "wholly-owned" is not a plus. In fact, it's probably a minus.


fenix1 06-06-2018 10:40 PM

Good to know and thank you, but how long ago was that? (ie, is SWA still on-board with turboprop hours today or has the continued proliferation of RJ’s changed SWA’s perspective on folks with a lot of turboprop time?)


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2608954)
I don't think it has to do with props. If anything SWA seems to be more inclined to hire prop trash than most other majors. They sure hired a lot SKW brasilia drivers.


fenix1 06-06-2018 10:41 PM

I appreciate it a great deal. Do you mind if I ask how long ago you were in class with SWA?


Originally Posted by Swingline78 (Post 2609641)
There was a horizon guy in my class. To my knowledge where you come from isn't nearly as important as the qualifications you have. In other words pic pic pic


Swingline78 06-07-2018 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by fenix1 (Post 2610007)
I appreciate it a great deal. Do you mind if I ask how long ago you were in class with SWA?

Less than a year.

fenix1 06-07-2018 11:23 PM

Thanks a lot


Originally Posted by Swingline78 (Post 2610111)
Less than a year.


at6d 06-08-2018 08:52 AM

In many ways, the turboprops are more difficult to fly than the jets and have different challenges.

In this scenario, it’s still 121 turbine PIC time.

That being said, experience in a variety of 121 aircraft would always be good for an applicant.

fenix1 06-08-2018 11:46 PM

Horizon is moving toward having a split fleet (Q400's & E175's) that could be a great thing (2 type ratings if things go well), but there's been some messy in rolling out the E175's (more 175's than planned have ended up with SkyWest instead of Horizon) so I'm curious to see how this actually plays out.

Personally, I love the idea of flying the Q400's with Horizon (no shiny jet syndrome here) and my only concern is making sure I wouldn't be hurting my ability to get hired after that at a major or legacy. I've heard many share the same perspective that you did below - turboprops are a real challenge, especially on the Cat III approaches in weather that Horizon flies - but I can see major/legacy hiring authorities being concerned about the slower speeds of turboprops (ie, greater training risk) & hiring pilots with all RJ time instead (which is in no short supply clearly).


I appreciate your help and insight.


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 2610851)
In many ways, the turboprops are more difficult to fly than the jets and have different challenges.

In this scenario, it’s still 121 turbine PIC time.

That being said, experience in a variety of 121 aircraft would always be good for an applicant.


moflyer 06-09-2018 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 2568299)
Isn't silver shrinking? I don't see them lasting that much longer but who knows.

They are getting a brand new fleet of ATR-42’s and maybe 72’s. Not sure how they will staff them, but it will be better than the Saab.


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