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Old 06-20-2018, 07:23 PM   #1  
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Can someone please walk me through the hours required for consolidation after initial training and what happens if those hours arenít met within the time frame? If they arenít met do you have to go back through the entire initial all over again?
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Can someone please walk me through the hours required for consolidation after initial training and what happens if those hours arenít met within the time frame? If they arenít met do you have to go back through the entire initial all over again?
100 hrs in 120 days or something like that. You donít get it done you get to go back to the sim. Donít ask me what you do in there....Iíve never had a problem meeting the req.
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Can someone please walk me through the hours required for consolidation after initial training and what happens if those hours arenít met within the time frame? If they arenít met do you have to go back through the entire initial all over again?
(g) Except as provided in paragraph (h) of this section, pilot in command and second in command crewmembers must each acquire at least 100 hours of line operating flight time for consolidation of knowledge and skills (including operating experience required under paragraph (c) of this section) within 120 days after the satisfactory completion of:

(1) Any part of the flight maneuvers and procedures portion of either an airline transport pilot certificate with type rating practical test or an additional type rating practical test, or

(2) A ß 121.441 proficiency check.

(h) The following exceptions apply to the consolidation requirement of paragraph (g) of this section:

(1) Pilots who have qualified and served as pilot in command or second in command on a particular type airplane in operations under this part before August 25, 1995 are not required to complete line operating flight time for consolidation of knowledge and skills.

(2) Pilots who have completed the line operating flight time requirement for consolidation of knowledge and skills while serving as second in command on a particular type airplane in operations under this part after August 25, 1995 are not required to repeat the line operating flight time before serving as pilot in command on the same type airplane.

(3) If, before completing the required 100 hours of line operating flight time, a pilot serves as a pilot in another airplane type operated by the certificate holder, the pilot may not serve as a pilot in the airplane for which the pilot has newly qualified unless the pilot satifactorily completes refresher training as provided in the certificate holder's approved training program and that training is conducted by an appropriately qualified instructor or check pilot.

(4) If the required 100 hours of line operating flight time are not completed within 120 days, the certificate holder may extend the 120-day period to no more than 150 days if -

(i) The pilot continues to meet all other applicable requirements of subpart O of this part; and

(ii) On or before the 120th day the pilot satisfactorily completes refresher training conducted by an appropriately qualified instructor or check pilot as provided in the certificate holder's approved training program, or a check pilot determines that the pilot has retained an adequate level of proficiency after observing that pilot in a supervised line operating flight.

(5) The Administrator, upon application by the certificate holder, may authorize deviations from the requirements of paragraph (g) of this section, by an appropriate amendment to the operations specifications, to the extent warranted by any of the following circumstances:

(i) A newly certificated certificate holder does not employ any pilots who meet the minimum requirements of paragraph (g) of this section.

(ii) An existing certificate holder adds to its fleet an airplane type not before proven for use in its operations.

(iii) A certificate holder establishes a new domicile to which it assigns pilots who will be required to become qualified on the airplanes operated from that domicile.

(i) Notwithstanding the reductions in programmed hours permitted under ßß 121.405 and 121.409 of subpart N of this part, the hours of operating experience for crewmembers are not subject to reduction other than as provided in accordance with a deviation authorized under paragraph (a) of this section or as provided in paragraphs (e) and (f) of this section.

[Doc. No. 9509, 35 FR 95, Jan. 3, 1970, as amended by Amdt. 121-74, 36 FR 12284, June 30, 1971; Amdt. 121-91, 37 FR 10729, May 27, 1972; Amdt. 121-140, 43 FR 9599, Mar. 9, 1978; Amdt. 121-144, 43 FR 22647, May 25, 1978; Amdt. 121-159, 45 FR 41593, June 19, 1980; Amdt. 121-248, 60 FR 20870, Apr. 27, 1995; Amdt. 121-366, 78 FR 67840, Nov. 12, 2013]
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:35 AM   #4  
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You wonít have any problems getting there. Youíll have over 25 by the end of IOE. Theyíll schedule you a hard line the rest of that month and the entire next month and youíll have well over 100 in that time period. Only issue would be some catastrophic health or family tragedy, and the company will bend over backwards to help you through it.
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:47 AM   #5  
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So Iím actually going to have a schedule conflict during that time of consolidation, so I may not be able to get the 100 hours like most people coming off training. So that why Iím asking what happens if we canít get the time, because there is a chance I wonít.
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So Iím actually going to have a schedule conflict during that time of consolidation, so I may not be able to get the 100 hours like most people coming off training. So that why Iím asking what happens if we canít get the time, because there is a chance I wonít.
It can be extended another 30 days out to 150.
If you still donít make it, you go to the sim for an LOE/PC and your clock is reset.
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I would discuss the situation with the manager of new hire training before you start. Theyíll work out a plan that works for everyone before it becomes a problem. Just donít let it linger until it become an issue.
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