e6bpilot

Source?
That data came right off the MIT ADP which I believe takes into account total system traffic including regional feed.
I honestly don’t care that much. AA is a great place to work, I just want to make sure your drive by muscle flexing is backed up by real data.
If I am wrong, then I apologize.

Squallrider

I have t been here that long but I can say this company doesn’t spend a dollar unless it needs to, walking around the new training center alone can tell you something is up, there are rooms upon rooms that are empty and I’m not just talking about the one floor we all visit. The NOC will be expanding from being one floor to being two in the very near future (yes there’s a entire twin of the current noc below it that’s not being utilized except for a few support staff). Not to mention that plans are drawn up to break out the wall in the sim room to add at least 4 new bays.

The company benefits from running lean, I bet the premium pay alone can be made up by the other costs company occurs with new hires especially considering the price of health care these days, not to mention retirement contributions etc. something is up I guarantee it.

Sliceback

Airlines and the industry tend to track ASM's, or RPM's, over boarded passengers. A passenger flying from NY to LAX generates 3,000 RPM. The entire flight generates ASM's. On a non-stop, with only one flight number, that passenger counts as one boarding. If the passenger takes four flights, all with the same flight number, it counts as four boardings. At least I think that's how it worked in the past. So the same passenger might be counted more than once vs only being counted once on a non-stop or if the flight changes flight numbers.

MIT Airline Data Project has a lot of numbers going back years and years. Regional stuff is on press releases or annual reports of specific airlines.

Airline Data Project

Sliceback

It's not 'drive by muscle flexing'. SW is at the top of the domestic carriers but doesn't "dominate" the domestic market.

Maybe you could address his "domination" theory for the guys trying to figure out A vs B?

Sliceback

The MIT ADP has specific major airline data in a general link and if you click on specific airlines it a breakdown by regions.

BTS has AA's ASM at 147,500,000. Envoy is 6.6 million, for a total of 154 million.

https://www.transtats.bts.gov/Data_Elements.aspx?Data=4

It looks like the MIT airline data is only for the specific airline and doesn't include the regional carriers.

DaveF

I get what you are throwing out there but at least this X regional pilot who is on cloud nine to be onboard the WN train won’t roll over and take anything less than an amazing contract we all deserve. Remember most regional pilots lived and survived over the past 18 years under the worst treatment and contract conditions you could imagine. Most if not all of us understand the process and will be right there with you with steely eyed resolve if that day ever comes which hopefully it doesn’t!

03sport007

I had the same thoughts when I read this. Of the three groups that make up most new hires, guys from the regionals are battle hardened.

Zard

Most DOD guys showing up who left before the end of a full 20 career or squadron skipper tour now have worked under toxic leadership without enough resources the last decade and don’t want to repeat the process here. I don’t have a retirement and I’ve never been at the top of the tree of smiling monkeys (the monkey at the top only sees smiling monkeys when he looks down, the monkey at the bottom only sees a bunch of a**holes when he looks up).

We’ve never had a union before, but I’m living proof we can learn. Without having a retirement to fall back on, I’m plenty vested in being fairly compensated for the level of responsibility we undertake on every billion dollar release we sign.

I’ve also seen enough cheapskate bull**** here on probation already that I’m not buying the LUVfest Kool Aid outside of DAL. SWA is nothing more than a job working for a gigantic corporate behemoth. Anyone who claims otherwise is full of ****. It’s a good job, but if GK could replace me with a monkey who he could pay in bananas, I have no doubts he’d do it in a heartbeat.

Having an old man who is a teamster might give me a little bit of a leg up, but I can assure you even guys who don’t have much 121 experience aren’t interested in selling ourselves or the profession short in the next round of negotiations.

WHACKMASTER

I owe the last three posters a round. If everyone thought the way you do we’d be further ahead as a profession.

SlipKid

Amen brother.