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737 MAX - Safe or Unsafe?

I’m surprised nobody is grinding this issue into pulp yet.

Thoughts?

Define safe. That's the question everyone in the media is overlooking.

Drive to the airport-level safe?
Fast food-level safe?
Riding a bike-level safe?
Texting while walking-level safe?

When they grounded the ATR in the 90's more people died from driving as a result.

My gut says it’s a training issue. Having flown for many years over there, it’s not a SWAG, but it is close.

Just coming off the wire that all Max to be grounded by FAA.

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Originally Posted by Hellokitty (Post 2781531)

Training related issue I don’t think so my friend with a superiority complex.. All 737 Max are all grounded at this moment. Even with ****ty training airplanes should not be nose diving on our fellow aviators. Go do some soul searching u prick!

Based on what? There is no proof the plane is unsafe, it has been proven safe before. Airplanes are only as safe as the person flying them. Can’t help but notice the FO had 200 hours - total time. Can’t rule out a training issue, as a matter of fact it’s almost like there should be an investigation before just jumping to conclusions.

Lion air was banned from operating in the EU for years due to safety records and this crew was a young low time captain paired with a 200 hour first. American, Southwest, and United have racked up thousands of uneventful hours in the max. Yeah, it’s the plane.

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Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2781602)

200 hours or not , if the airplane pitches down on you like the lion air did , there is no way that 200 hours or 8000 hours will save you.

We don’t know the cause yet , but if the two crashes are related , all of the airplanes should be grounded in order to protect the safety of the general public and our fellow pilots !

I’m not sure what airplane you fly Meow1215, I’m sure you have more than 200 hours , but if an airplane pitches down on you near the ground at full trim , you wouldn’t be able to save it either.

It’s better to be safe than sorry , keep them on the ground until a full explanation is known, no need to take risks! I’m sure you wouldn’t want your entire family flying around a MAX-8 on multiple trips a day for a month! Well that’s what these flight crews are doing , not knowing if the glitch is going to happen or not.

I truly feel for the people who are being forced to fly this airplane at the moment , I personally would’ve called out until I hear what’s going on. Specially since Boeing said that it’s bringing out a fix within weeks , which means there is something wrong with the airplane.

How many Maxs does SWA have in their inventory right now? The APC profile says only 9. Seems low.

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Originally Posted by LATIN (Post 2781615)

You know the Lion air crew before the crash crew had the same issue as the crew that crashed and was able not to crash.