There’s nothing cryptic about it. SWA is overmanned now. Overmanned before the MAX was grounded. They’d be overmanned with 19 more planes. The MAX may be back within a month or so of those 19 planes entering service anyway. Not buying those planes has nothing to do with not having a growth agenda. You don’t even know the details of where those planes are coming from or whether SWA tried to get them.

Stop the pointless speculation and find a better hobby.

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"Pointless speculation...Find a better hobby"?

Again with the hobby! "Dammit, that's twice!" (Cheesy Top Gun ATC guy)

Nope, you're right, nothing cryptic. :rolleyes:

Just curious, as you're on here too, shouldn't you "find a better hobby" or were you anointed official hall monitor? :D

FYI, the purpose of a forum is the open exchange of thoughts and ideas. Labelling inputs you disagree with as 'pointless speculation' and dispatching people to "find a better hobby"(x2) isn't exactly in the spirit of open dialogue. Why so defensive? Relax Peacock, your airline will not be harmed by pointless speculation. Your argument, while still difficult to follow, is one you're entitled to and we can agree to disagree . I'll work on finding a better hobby; perhaps can you work on your anger.

Peace.

I’ll bite, I want to know that the folks in charge have a plan too.

I’d like to believe they have a short term plan to continue to grow the enterprise during the Max grounding. I’d like to believe they have a plan B in the event the Max never comes back. I’d like to believe that we will be appropriately manned if/when the Max returns to service. I hope that none of these plans include a merger or acquisition.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss what the plan is. Right now we are dead in the water, unable to grow and unable to continue fleet replacement.

Just because he doesn’t work for WN, doesn’t make his thoughts on the topic any less valid. I am a lifelong avgeek long before being an avgeek was cool and I have engaged in similar discussions about dozens of airlines that I’ve never worked for.

These are questions worth asking whether you work at WN or not.

No anger here. If you can’t decipher the plain writing, there’s nothing I can do for you.

We are overmanned and have been for a while....now for two big IFs, we can scoop up a bunch of maxes and if the public wants to fly it we can expand really fast by being overstaffed now. I think company will play it safe and not go too all in for cheap Max’s , I think they will get compensated either through a cheaper deal in the future or a bigger airframe.

GK being conservative I think would look into at least getting another fleet program up and running even if we don’t follow through with a purchase, that way if it’s further delayed or public really doesn’t forget we can recover, it will have another benefit of putting Boeing on notice. Whatever we save with single fleet type takes a massive cut when something like this happens, and this isn’t the first time 737 has been grounded for a while.

How long to get Airbus program up and running? I know we will fly it like a 300 but we can surely do it in less than a year.

Spot on fellow avgeek. We're all in this together, just the hired help. Any one of us could easily be on the street, working elsewhere. Seemed straightforward enough to me, not sure what the fuss is about.

Too many pilots, not enough planes, expensive, but no growth. No one knows when the Max will come back or how.

The sky is not falling.
Everyone here seems to have a lot of permanent solutions to a temporary problem.
The max will fly again.
Southwest will survive and prosper through this.
An economic slowdown or another hull loss scares me a lot more than this temporary crisis.

So would most agree that SWA isn't going anywhere? Dual meaning intended.

I kid, I kid!

Great company, great peeps.